Council considers how to tackle anti-social behaviour and supercars

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Cheshire East Council is asking local residents, businesses and visitors to the area to complete a short survey following reports concerning anti-social behaviour and performance vehicles travelling through and visiting Alderley Edge.

A spokesperson for Cheshire East Council said "Reports have included, loud revving of engines and engine noises, rapid acceleration from junctions and traffic lights, speeding and general exhibitionist behaviour from a minority driving these kinds of vehicles. We have also received reports around this behaviour being encouraged on the public highway by groups of individuals gathering whom wish to film/view the performance vehicles 'in action'.

"In addition to the above, we have also received reports of organised gatherings of performance vehicles nearby which has caused disruption to those wishing to use the highway and living/working/visiting the area.

"Whilst we appreciate that this behaviour is only being displayed by a minority of individuals; it has however come to our attention that this is potentially having a detrimental impact on those visiting, residing and working in the area. The noise created from the excessive revving and acceleration of these vehicles can be extremely loud and upsetting. More importantly, when performed on the public highway through towns/villages, this can also be very dangerous."

As a result the Council is considering options in relation to how this sort of behaviour can be tackled and as part of the process they are asking local residents, businesses and visitors to the area to complete the survey to enable them to look at the frequency of the reported behaviour and the impact it might be having.

A spokesperson said "We would also like to listen to your ideas as to how you might think this behaviour is best addressed or whether you think that this behaviour has any impact on you."

The closing date for completing the survey is Tuesday 1st September at 4pm.

If you have any questions or issues accessing this consultation then please contact the Anti-Social Behaviour Team on: 0300 123 50 30 (please note that during the current pandemic period, this contact number is a voicemail only facility which is regularly checked) or via email [email protected].

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Comments

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Terry Roeves
Sunday 9th August 2020 at 9:19 am
Is it not the responsibility of our police to enforce the law?
Why would CEC conduct a survey to assess our attitude to law breaking?
The law is the law. Use a speed camera and deal with the drivers on the spot. After all, it’s what police do regularly. Why not now in AE or along the A34?
It does not need a CEC survey to deal with this, unless I’ve missed something.
Jon Newell
Sunday 9th August 2020 at 11:26 am
I do hope this survey is not being treated as an end. It is a starting point and almost certainly unnecessary .

As has been said, speeding is always illegal and wheel spinning must be dangerous driving.

It is an issue of enforcing existing laws.
Terry Roeves
Sunday 9th August 2020 at 2:03 pm
Sunday afternoon; very quiet on A34. So far, so good.
Vince Chadwick
Sunday 9th August 2020 at 3:51 pm
I think you spoke a tad too soon, Terry. Lots of silly hard screaming revving noises coming from the bypass direction, and as they change up through the gears they must be doing well over the speed limit as the 'floor it' in every gear.
Manuel Golding
Monday 10th August 2020 at 6:46 pm
Anti-social behaviour comes in many forms as exampled by the boy-racers cruising club; speed racing, polluting noisy exhausts, which also emit polluting emissions. dangerous driving by these unskilled boy drivers (threatening other road users, pedestrians & cyclists etc) and litter & dirt from their "camp followers". not to mention their disregard for the parking restrictions in Fulshaw Park - where are the police when needed?
We are to have yet another 'short survey'. why? The problem is all too loud and clear without yet another survey. All that is needed is to ask those police personnel on duty in Alderley & along the A34 by pass and Alderley Road a couple of weekends ago. This will save costs in producing a report, action is what us needed not endless survey reports that only means delaying obvious needed action.
Nick Jones
Tuesday 11th August 2020 at 7:24 am
This survey is total obfuscation to detract from those with the designated legislative powers to engage in enforcement.
Over any given period of months years exactly how many prosecutions have occurred ?
I suspect very few if any.
There are more important issues that truly affect people’s lives at this unique Covid led time.
Manuel Golding
Wednesday 12th August 2020 at 10:24 am
Decision by committee, never a good or progressive formulae for progress.
It is known what the problem is, therefore sort it out p.d.q.
This is the opportunity for councillors and council to show that it & they deserve the voters support.
Vic Barlow
Wednesday 12th August 2020 at 8:13 pm
Simply a delaying tactic employed by weak public bodies to avoid confronting a problem.
How many prosecutions to date ????
Simon Worthington
Thursday 13th August 2020 at 8:38 am
While they are busy with this and the "upsetting noise" (let's ban thunder and lightning too) perhaps a fine for cyclists NOT using a cycle path when provided at great public expense for their use.
Funnily enough those working (and not resident) in the area have a detrimental effect on residents!!!
Manuel Golding
Thursday 13th August 2020 at 6:33 pm
I fear some of my comments have been misinterpreted and I wish to clear some of these. However, whilst this survey is related to Alderley, no mention is made (or concern) of the "overflow" effect of this anti-social car behaviour as it adversely affects nearby Wilmslow's Fulshaw Park. What is adversely affecting Alderley Edge is similarly impinging upon Wilmslow, particularly Fulshaw Park. Are we not part of the Cheshire East Council's domain? Surely such a Public Space Protection Order must include the Fulshaw Park "Prohibition Of Entry Order" as it suffers from the same people on the same days as Alderley Edge. The PSPO is trying to protect Alderley Edge. It is said the claim the PSPO will enable the Council's Civil Enforcement Officers to "support the police" - Fulshaw Park "Prohibition Of Entry Order" requires the police to enforce same (this is beyond the scope of the Council's Civil Enforcement Officers).
I fully appreciate the new Council needs to follow the correct process. I'm afraid I had become accustomed to the previous Conservative led regimes headed by both Clles Michael Jones and Rachel Bailey. I do appreciate the new council regime has changed for the better. I'm sorry that nasty old & historic habits die hard!

I would urge all Wilmslow respondents to this survey to state the case for Fulshaw Park's "Prohibition Of Entry Order" as Wilmslow & Fulshaw Park suffers from the very same source.
David Smith
Wednesday 19th August 2020 at 6:56 pm
I suppose a declaration of intent to 'have a survey' can make everyone think that action will be taken to deal with the problem but the realists with a tinge of cynicism will not be holding their breath.
I add my pennyworth to the issue by stating the following in the hope that it might give a better understanding of the nature of the problem and certainly make the point that it isn't just a case of a few exhibitionist owners of naff flash cars creating a bit of entertainment in Alderley Edge high street. There are more annoying issues that could turn nasty and see people injured or killed, So please spare a few minutes to go through my posting.
Thanks.

Watch this YouTube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLTCcy8UauI&feature=emb_rel_end

It's from the USA but the car modifications are the same sort of thing that can be done to the noisy cars we hear on the A34. If you can't spare the time to watch all the way through to see what sort of 'Dudes' enjoy this way of having fun then just start the clip at 16mins 30secs which shows how the exhaust sounds AFTER it has been modified, purposely to make a noise that gets them excited but only disturbs the peace of everyone else.
So now do you understand? It is this sort of exhaust modification that makes the noise and is achieved by revving the engine to very high revs when still in a low gear. So driving purposely in the very low gears to keep the revs high and make a racket.
SAFETY: If anyone still thinks these sort of 'Dudes' accelerate modestly and DON'T see any road they are on as just a playground on which to have fun then please think again and if you really want more to make you think, have a look at this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOnZyFkf42c

Many of the cars are driving in the village in a sensible fashion and I am sure a few locals just going about their day also get featured but it is when some of them get on the A34 and can put their foot down that the cars make the racket that we can all hear throughout Wilmslow.
If the speed limit on the A34 was a controlled and monitored 40mph this noise generation would not be anything like as severe and the cars would eventually go off and find somewhere else to strut their stuff.

THAT IS WHY THE SPEED LIMIT NEEDS TO BE LOWERED TO 40mph. IT IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS EXHAUST RACKET ISSUE IS GOING TO BE SOLVED. WHY ARE THERE STILL PERSONS WHO DO NOT GET IT?

Finally, if you want to see how it can go horribly wrong elsewhere in the world, have a look here. Many of these clips show cars going quite slowly. The drivers just can't handle them and could be in Alderley Edge instead of some other small town. What is common however is that the cars are all rather expensive, with modifications to make them sound 'good' and all recorded at close quarters by young lads who like to be 'close to the action'. One day someone will be too close and the coroner will have a perfect recording of the event to summarise the exact cause of death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LidF1gF3YQ

So Joe Taylor and anyone else SAFETY - YES!

There is a place however where these 'Dudes' can go to have some fun. It is in Germany and called the NÜRBURGRING. It's been featured on the 'clown' motoring show 'Top Gear'. I think Joe Public can take a car round the circuit as you can see in the video below. Perhaps you could if you were mad enough. I would suggest that all these boy racers round Wilmslow take their flash motors over there for a few laps and see how many cars [or driver Dudes] come home without a scratch! Makes poncing around in Wilmslow & Alderley Edge look like stuff for mamby pamby's. Go on 'Dudes' get over there and have a go at really pooing your pants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmoEIyw1HFU

Enjoy!