Former nightclub set for demolition

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A development company has informed Cheshire East Council of their intention to demolish the former Yesterdays nightclub in Alderley Edge because the building is structurally unsafe.

The Victorian villa at Harden Park is also vulnerable to vandalism and due to its structural condition this is considered a health and safety risk.

A recent inspection revealed that the roof structure, staircases, flooring and internal brickwork are in such a deteriorated state of disrepair that they need removing as a matter of urgency. Temporary supports would also need to be provided for all the walls left standing.

The inspector concluded that "to effect these works safely, the risk of collapse of the remaining structure is so high as to warrant the demolition".

The demolition works are expected to commence on 1st October and be completed by 1st December 2015.

Following demolition of the 1,245 square metre, two and a half storey building the site will be cleared and made secure.

In June MCR Property Group submitted a planning application to demolish the former nightclub and replace it with ten 4-bedroom detached bungalows on the 1.67 Ha site which lies in the North Cheshire Green Belt.

Yesterdays nightclub closed in 2004 and the property has remained vacant since.

The planning application, which is yet to be determined, can be viewed on the Cheshire East Council website by searching for planning reference 15/1955M.

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DELETED ACCOUNT
Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 12:54 pm
4 bedroomed bungalows for all the pensioners who want to downsize? So basically they think they can get away with bungalows in the Green Belt and the bungalows would be bought by young couples and soon converted into yet more massive houses.
DELETED ACCOUNT
Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 1:05 pm
I suggest that all pensioners in Wilmslow and Alderley Edge take a look at the plans. Bungalows seem to come complete with 4 ensuites, + an extra W/c and shower room. There is the usual lounge + a family room and a kitchen large enough to hold a massive dining table. Also they do not appear to be true bungalows since some sections are already more than 1 storey. The flat roofs will make it much easier to add additional levels.
Simon Worthington
Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 2:17 pm
Of course the building was left to rot enabling demolition and speculative planning applications just as the old County pub opposite. Any buyers will need to drive to local amenities so another 20 plus vehicles attempting to access a very busy and fast road. Maybe these will be some more affordable houses like the ones Pete is assembling on Adlington Road. Another 10 millionaires needed then!!!
Ryan Dance
Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 2:18 pm
Jackie - so leave the current eyesore in place?

turn it into a meadow perhaps?
DELETED ACCOUNT
Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 2:49 pm
Ryan - the original house was built long before the Green Belt existed. It was subsequently made into a nightclub. Of course, pull it down because it is obviously dangerous and the owners would probably be liable if they didn't. Building new houses in the Green Belt is a different matter. Are there exceptional circumstances for this? Are they on the same "footprint" as the old house? These "bungalows" are not for pensioners. The only other people who I can think of who might desire bungalows of this size are footballers, who are so tired out by their morning training session that they can't manage climbing stairs. If the latter is the intended market, this would become a gated- community with security and a line straight through to the police helicopter to fly overhead every time a cat set off the outside lighting.
Ryan Dance
Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 3:55 pm
so what do you suggest should happen to this piece of unused land? on the edge of the village...which is already "developed" and surrounded by development along a busy stretch of road? perhaps you would like a wild flower meadow?

where we differ jackie - is im not obsessed by your like for like point of view. The land should be developed and is a good site for such a development

Whether its bungalows or gated mansions - so what.
Jon Armstrong
Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 4:31 pm
Jackie, surely 10 houses is preferable to another nightclub, with all the noise and traffic that goes with it?

Why would all buyers need to drive to local amenities? It's about 750m from the centre of the village. That's easy walking distance for all but the very old and disabled.

I can understand the objection to development on things that are currently just open fields, but objecting to development on sites that are derelict eyesores is crazy. This is exactly the type of brownfield site they should be using, and should do the same with the old County Hotel while they are at it.
Ryan Dance
Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 7:12 pm
well said Jon! Prime for development. The nimbys object to most sensible developments for fear of damaging a blade of grass of creating a traffic jam.
Graham Peters
Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 7:29 pm
Jackie - I have studied the plans, and I think they look fantastic. What a great looking development - eco friendly with lots of energy saving aspects. I've registered my interest with the developer and I can assure you I'm neither a footballer or pensioner! Let's hope that something can be done with the old County Hotel - now that is an eyesore!
Jack Pink
Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 10:24 pm
It's not nimbys round here but bananas! You don't have to be old to live in a bungalow either. People on here bang on about using brownfield sites and as soon as they come along they still find reasons to moan. So what if they are expensive and have footballers living in them
Jon Williams
Friday 4th September 2015 at 8:16 am
What if a Mosque was going to be built instead, would you not be bothered ?
Sally Hoare
Friday 4th September 2015 at 8:46 am
This is perfect land for development, along with the County pub. The whole site should be developed as one to include some more affordable homes for young families.
Jon Armstrong
Friday 4th September 2015 at 9:53 am
Why would a mosque be a problem? It seems a very loaded question.
Jon Williams
Friday 4th September 2015 at 11:10 am
The whole site and the County Hotel should NOT be built on, but left as a green space between Wilmslow and Alderley Edge and the fields turned into a park, after all, it is called "HARDEN PARK"
Mark Goldsmith
Friday 4th September 2015 at 2:16 pm
Seems like one of those brown field sites that is ripe for development. Personally, I would like the existing property converted into flats though. It would keep the lovely Victorian frontage and provide more homes too.

By the way, its an old developer trick - let the property decay, so you have to pull it down because of H&S. Much less resistance to losing a charming old building that way.

PS Graham Peters: seems like your 1st ever comment here and it is a gushing endorsement for the plans and further development. How convenient for them. BTW, how exactly did you register your interest with the developers given there is no mention of it on their web site?
Terry Roeves
Friday 4th September 2015 at 3:43 pm
The site might well lie within the greenbelt, but in itself it hasn't been green belt since Queen Victoria was on the throne. It's a brown field site, so helpful in cutting back on any green field development sites.
An unloved building, I'm afraid, of no commercial value, could have been demolished years ago and something constructed in it's place. Why so slow?
It's not in Wilmslow now. Our newish boundary finishes at the bypass island, so it's AEPC and AE residents to influence the northern planning group.
The faster we have something there the better, but it's unlikely to be pastures green and cattle gently grazing! Or a park.........
So let's not squabble children. Play nicely! Let AE submit their comments. They have the plan references in the article.
Graham Peters
Friday 4th September 2015 at 5:41 pm
Well MrGoldsmith - just because I don't pass comment on every single story, doesn't mean I haven't commented before - check your facts first before jumping to the wrong conclusion.
Anyone with a bit of interest in local planning can check what's going on - I live less than 1/2 mile away. It's easy for anyone to read the Planning application and see who the developer is! Is not rocket science - just common sense!
Having been resident in Wilmslow for 30 years and 20 years prior to that in Alderley Edge, I do have an interest - I even worked in the Harden Park Hotel as a teenager when it was privately owned and Managed by Bob Verity.
The building was needing substantial refurbishment back in the 80's when it was sold - the makeover then served a purpose - and like other people, I enjoyed a drink or two in the place when it was Yesterday's.
The last planning application for the place was seen as a step too far - a hotel with 30+ bedrooms, so a residential option at least removes the decrepit eyesore that it's become.
I wait with interest to what the outcome is next week when the planning decision is made. Oh by the way - that's also displayed on the Cheshire East website!
Ryan Dance
Friday 4th September 2015 at 8:39 pm
Jon Williams.... you don't need to capitalise your words to make a point. It's clear to most rational, sensible and practical contributors the site is perfect for development.

Green belt policy is outdated. The world will pass you by and one day you will wake up..... or perhaps not. In either case. The world will go on. 1950's policy.... nearly 60 years later. Ummmmmm
Jack Pink
Friday 4th September 2015 at 10:02 pm
Jon Williams, using your logic, presumably you would raise no objection to me demolishing your house and returning it to a field? After all, that's what it once was!
Dave Cash
Saturday 5th September 2015 at 2:38 am
A proposed demolition start date of 1st Oct before Planning application has been decided smacks of 'undue pressure' from the developer?
If application is rejected could the Villa later be destroyed by an unattributable fire or sold on?
The current building became a permitted edifice became a permitted building within the later greenbelt, not the whole curtilage, so AFAIK any replacement structures can only occupy footprint of existing building.
Conversion to a Mosque is not a problem, provided above constraints are applied.
If the County, Villa etc were developed (above) as affordable housing whilst maintaining exterior façade, I would have no objection.
Pete Taylor
Saturday 5th September 2015 at 9:58 pm
http://bit.ly/1NNHsxx

Has this hurdle been overcome? It seems the site is contaminated and development id refused.
DELETED ACCOUNT
Sunday 6th September 2015 at 7:32 pm
Pete - my reading of the situation is the same as yours - a replacement would have to occupy the footprint of the house. If the planning application is approved then any "bungalows" not within that footprint would be in the gardens of it. Cheshire East do not count as part of their housing numbers any buildings created from gardens - so that is presumably 8 or 9 extra properties which will never appear in any statistics. Also, what is the "need" for housing in Wilmslow and Alderley Edge? As far as I can see the "need" is for pensioners and affordable homes - this falls into neither category.
Jack Pink
Monday 7th September 2015 at 9:10 pm
Jackie you are wrong. The brownfield status of the site extends to its full curtilage as it's last lawful use was not a house. Therefore the 'garden' has nothing to do with it. Also, nowhere in the NPPF does it say redevelopment of a brownfield site has to be restricted to its existing footprint. It said something to that affect in PPG2 but you won't find it in the NPPF.
Hilary Pinnock
Wednesday 9th September 2015 at 1:52 pm
I remember Harden Park from 50+ years ago when my family first moved to Wilmslow. As a teenager, I got my first job there when it was owned privately by Stan and Isobel Baird. Their Saturday Night dinner dances were legend, folk came from all over to dance late into the night. Bob Wherrity was the chef.
A beautiful building. Such a shame that money speaks louder than taste. I've often hoped someone with umph would bring it back to its former glory rather than erase it from the landscape to replace it with yet more unaffordable housing.
Sad.
Debra Conroy
Thursday 10th September 2015 at 12:12 pm
I agree with Hilary and Mr Goldsmith. Retain the original frontage and repair and develop the building, ultimately turning it into apartments. It is then in keeping with the original design and will not be a blight on the surrounding area.