Reverend assures work will be done with 'greatest care and sensitivity'

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One of the great landmarks in Wilmslow will shortly undergo significant and urgent restoration works.

A programme of restoration and re-ordering is planned for St Bartholomew's Church which is an important part of the heritage of the town.

Plans include replacing the current floor with a new stone flagged floor incorporating under floor heating in order to heat and maintain the building more effective. The lighting, wiring and sound systems in the building, which are in need of attention, will be completely renewed and in order to enable the church to host more events they are planning to introduce a new nave platform.

As part of the works the pews will be need to be removed, some of which will be used in the Jesus Chapel and the pew ends will be reused for new furniture. The pews will be replaced with stackable benches - a sample similar to the ones which will be used is currently in the church for people to view and sit on.

Rev Paul Smith explained "The large wooden section of the church floor, to which the pews are attached, is sinking because the wooden joints underneath are rotting. Because the pews are attached to the wooden sections of the floor and because most of them exist in large and complex units they inevitably have to be dismantled and removed from the premises in order to repair the floor.

"The Victorian Society agreed that it was unrealistic to return the majority of them, but was pleased that we are retaining some of the pews. They commented that, "The choice of replacement benches designed by Luke Hughes is a worthy and appropriate one."

He added "The aim of all of this is to care for and maintain the important heritage of the building, but at the same time to make the building as comfortable and flexible as possible for use in the 21st century so that the community can use and enjoy it as much as possible.

"If a building like this is to have a future it has got to change, no change ever is not viable, not sustainable. What we do though will be done with the greatest care and sensitivity to the building."

There will be no changes to the external appearance of the building so planning permission was not required from Cheshire East Council. The church did need to obtain a faculty, which is a permissive right to undertake works to the church, from The Church of England's system of planning control. They received the faculty towards the end of last year.

The project has been ongoing since 2009 and the process has been undertaken in consultation with the Diocesan Advisory Committee, the Church Building Council, English Heritage, the Victorian Society, The Society for the Protection of Ancient Buildings, the Ancient Monument Society and the Conservation Department at Cheshire East Council.

Rev Paul Smith said "We have consulted with user groups such as the schools and concert organisers that use the premises regularly. Planning notices have been displayed for six weeks, a public notice placed in the Wilmslow Express and plans available for viewing in church and at the Rectory since August."

Some local residents are concerned about the proposed works though, including a local archaeologist who has carried out works at St Bartholomew's for a number of years.

Dr. Birgitta Hoffmann, from the School of Archaeology, Classics and Egyptology at the University of Liverpool and Wilmslow Community Archaeology, is not against the reordering but concerned that the work is going to impact some graves.

Dr. Hoffmann told wilmslow.co.uk "The plans assume that there is next to no archaeology in the top thirty to forty centimeters underneath the floor, which will be removed during the reordering. The work that we did in the last five years in the church, showed that there are substantial archaeological remains at varying depth in the church, and the presumption that the top thirty centimeters are empty is over optimistic.

"I am worried that any building plans that assume this, will become very expensive, when they encounter the older floors under the church as well as the remains of the old graves."

She added "The Diocesan Advisory Committee was told that there would be no archaeological impact with their plans and that the surviving ledger stones (flat gravestones with inscriptions) are not representing graves. Some of these ledger stones will be preserved, but the space set aside for them, is not large enough for all the stones.

"In the 20th century some of the more important and oldest ledger stones of Wilmslow (which has some of the oldest in Cheshire) were brought into the church to preserve them from further deterioration, but these are mostly in the Prescott Chapel.

"I do not know, where the idea comes from that the ledger stones in the nave are not associated with graves as I have told the PCC and the wider community in Wilmslow on numerous occasions, in writing and in public lectures that it is likely that the ledger stones are sitting still on top of the graves of the families they refer to, especially so in the back of the church and in the central aisles.

"These graves represent the old families of Wilmslow, some of which still have descendants living in the town. The names also represent some of the old rectors of Wilmslow.

"The most noteworthy grave affected is the grave of Samuel Greg and his family. This is the founder of Quarry Bank Mill, who chose to be interred in the church, with his wife and numerous of his children and descendants. The old records indicate that their grave was in the centre of the nave, where the ledger stone is now located."

Rev Paul Smith agreed that it is possible they may encounter some human remains but said they do not know this for sure.

He explained "In working on the floor of such an ancient building we are always aware of the possibility of encountering burials or human remains. All appropriate precautions have been taken to prepare for this. There is an archaeological method statement in place and an archaeologist on hand to advise.

"All such situations will be handled with great sensitivity and in accordance with the best practice guidelines drawn up between the Church of England and English Heritage."

The architect for the project is from Butress, Fuller, Alsop, Williams in Manchester and is architect to three of the great medieval cathedrals in England.

They are currently in the process of drawing up tender documents which will then go out to specialist contractors. Work will not commence until after Easter and is expected to take three to four months. In the meantime church services will take place in the Parish Hall and weddings will be held at St Anne's Church or St Philips and St James in Alderley Edge.

The church plans are available to view at the Prescott Chapel, alternatively people can contact Rev Paul Smith to arrange to view the plans at the Rectory.

Rev Paul Smith added "I would be very happy to discuss these plans with any members of the the parish and hope that the community will be supportive of our efforts to secure the future of this wonderful building."

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Flo Knowles
Tuesday 29th January 2013 at 11:02 pm
I think the re-ordering programme at St Bart's is an exciting challenge.
Any views surrounding the restoration are irrelevant. Fact: the work is essential or we will lose this beautiful working church altogether; a huge part of our town's heritage and a special place for many people.
In my mind, not to better its facilities while this is being undertaken would be a hugely wasted opportunity. . . improved heating is especially needed; but the lighting and sound systems also need attention to help fully accommodate the groups that regularly use the building.
We live in a 'modern world'. The church has seen two major phases of this kind before; no doubt providing challenges then, as indeed now. We can only trust, and I have full belief, that all necessary archaeological consideration and care is in place for any obstacles along the way to ensure the church's history is preserved to its upmost.
John Lees
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 7:20 am
I've looked at the plans for this project in some detail and support it completely. The work has been agreed after extensive consultation with experts, as well as with the Wilmslow community, and will be done with great care and attention to the character of this ancient building. However it also needs to be said that the work is also being done with a sense of vision for the way the building will contribute to the spiritial life of Wilmslow. Plans for more new seating arrangements, for example, will provide a much more flexible and well lit building. Improvements to the heating system will also provide a far greater degree of protection to the building. I'd like to express my appreciation for all the time, hard work and thought which has gone into this project to ensure that future generations inherit an exemplary place of worship.
Jan Dean
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 8:38 am
I think this project looks to the future but respects the past.
Giselle Goodwin
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 12:13 pm
Doing nothing doesnt sound like an option if the floors are sinking and the pews have to be taken out. New heating and lighting and a more comfortable environment will surely make people want to use the building more- it would be great to have a really comfortable building that everyone can use. Change is always happening- we just need to go with the times. I'm looking forward to seeing what it will look like!
Nicola Cathery
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 12:31 pm
I am fully supportive of this work; throughout the history of the Christian church buildings have had to change to serve their communities in the most effective way possible.
Raymond Acton
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 1:34 pm
As an Executive Member of the Wilmslow Trust,I think that this is an exciting project which will make the building more attractive and versatile. A great deal of care has been taken to plan a modernisation of what is perhaps the only Grade 1 Listed building in Wilmslow. The result should enable a successful continuation and development of the Chirch's work in the wider local community.
David Woolliscroft
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 4:37 pm
Flo Knowles' wrote: "Any views surrounding the restoration are irrelevant." Always nice to see a little humility! Of course other people's views are not irrelevant. No one disputes that the wooden floor in the church needs work, or that heating and electrical systems need maintenance and occasional replacement. That is a long way from saying that we need to start desecrating graves, let alone that of so important a historical figure as Samuel Greg. The tombs and the present wooden floor are completely separate and I see no reason why the dead should not be respected.
Barbara Foster
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 4:57 pm
Congratulations to all involved in this very necessary and essential project. We must save our beautiful church for future generations to enjoy, but as ever we must have a building that not only is a safe one, but that is fit for purpose today. All of us who love, and work, and commit to this Church support this vital and important work.
Ruth Dudley
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 5:48 pm
According to the dictionary 'desecrate' means to divert from any sacred purpose. Do you really think that Rev Smith would do this to any grave. As stated in the article any work on the graves will be handled sensitively and has been thought through and approved. I have full trust in Rev Smith and appreciate all the hard work he has put into this project.
Heidi Sumner
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 7:00 pm
The church in the Parish of Wilmslow, which includes the vibrant and forward thinking community of the St Barts and St Anne's famiy, has a wonderful and truly rich history. That wil only continue if progess is made with integrity and care to move into the future. It is my belief and personal experience that the Vicar, Paul Smith, has the whole community in mind when he and relevant interested parties endorsed the re-ordering. The future of any religion and surrounding community is dependent on its acknowledgement of a new generation whilst respecting the sanctity of what has been.
Flo Knowles
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 7:07 pm
Re David Woolliscroft's comment.
I apologise if you found my words to be lacking humility.
Of course everyone's views around the re-ordering of our church are important - I was simply trying to stress that the actual restoration itself (ie stopping the floor from sinking) is an absolute must.
I am deeply saddened to read of any ludicrous implication about the 'desecration' of graves or any lack of respect for the dead.
Heidi Sumner
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 8:10 pm
Flo, of course you are absolutely right! There is no intention to desecrate or to show lack of respect. only, thank God, to preseve and respect This is the church family, and wider community extending beyond, blanketed by the care of a wonderful, imaginative and visionary, 21st century carer in the name of Rev Paul Smith. As they say now, Nuff Said!!!
Madeline Clemens
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 9:31 pm
Rev Paul Smith has been very open an honest about the need to address the building issues at St Barts. There has been much consultation with all the relevant stakeholders and the community to address all of the issues in a respectful and sensitive manner. A decision has been made and it is up to us as a community to support our church, because even though Rev Smith has put his neck on the line with this project, St Barts is our church and we should be pulling together to support this important project. The church will need to be here for generations to come, and this is what is necessary to support that future.
Karen Deane
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 9:46 pm
Paul Smith and the team haven't just decided to re store St Barts for the fun of it! The church is in desperate need of restoration as the floors are sinking. If it isn't put right now, we won't have a church to go to in the future. Doing nothing is not an option!! I am in full support of all the plans and look forward to enjoying the church for many years to come. Well done Paul and thank you for all your hard work.
Catherine Asbury
Wednesday 30th January 2013 at 9:53 pm
I'd just like to say a big thank you to Rev Paul Smith and the whole team who have put so much careful, sensitive thought in to this visionary project. One of the beautiful achievements Revs Paul and Magdalen Smith have made is to make St Barts and its sister church St Anne's so welcoming and accessible to new potential members of the Christian community.
I had never been involved with the Christian faith until I turned to the leaders of St Barts some 2 years ago, and it is precisely the modern and inspirational approach headed up by Rev Smith that attracts new blood in to the congregation, keeping not only the church alive for generations to come, but also the faith and living community. I see these renovations as very much in keeping with the style of leadership, keeping the church relevant, accessible, comfortable and appealing to the many different people who enjoy it.
I, for one, trust and have faith in what Rev Paul Smith is going to achieve here, and I cannot wait to experience services in a building which offers scope for new ways of communicating and experiencing God's presence.
The sooner the better! Thank you Paul and the team!
John Lawrence
Thursday 31st January 2013 at 11:29 am
Flo Knowles is absolutely correct. What MUST be done must be done even if such involves some disturbance. Any such disturbance is a far cry from desecration and we are assured that all work will be carried out with care and sensitivity.
Thursday 31st January 2013 at 1:05 pm
I can understand why people may be anxious about change but I would say to anyone who is worried that Paul and his team have the welfare of the church and wider community very much at heart and I have no doubt they will handle any issues which arise with sensitivity and great care. It is very understandable why people should worry about these things, especially in such a well loved and historic building as St Barts, and especially with sensitive matters like graves but I do believe that these changes are in safe hands with Paul and I hope this will provide some reassurance. Things do need to change if the church is to remain a lively and vibrant part of our community. And I suspect that decent heating and comfortable seating will be very welcome for some of the more elderly members of the congregation - and some of the younger ones too!
Kathleen Morris
Tuesday 12th February 2013 at 12:33 pm
I fully endorse everything in the comment by David Woolliscroft.

The comments from those apparently supporting the proposals do not show any detailed knowledge of the church building or of the proposals. I have asked for information from the church about the proposals for dealing with the burials within the church and have received no reply.

What are the proposals for dealing with such matters as the lack of foundations to the building? This is surely a more basic issue than rearranging bits of the interior.

I note with interest the comments about heating. I can say without any doubt that St Bartholomew's is by far the warmest church I have ever been in. The heating may need regular maintenance like any other system but there is nothing wrong with its efficiency.
Jan Dean
Tuesday 12th February 2013 at 3:19 pm
English Heritage support the plans for the new heating system because it will be better for the building. The current heating system is very good at keeping the few feet just below the roof very warm, but the ambient temperature of the building fluctuates more than is good for its ancient fabric.
Kathleen Morris
Thursday 14th February 2013 at 10:54 am
I understand the need to keep a building in a state where the temperasture does not fluctuate too much. There are various ways of doing this, such as by insulation of the roof or walls or alterations to ventilation. This does not explain why English Heritage are supporting a scheme which involves disturbance of known human remains, nor does it tell us why they prefer this scheme to others which might have been proposed. How many other solutions were considered before choosing his one?
Jan Dean
Thursday 14th February 2013 at 11:47 am
The graves will certainly be disturbed if the floor falls in on them. But this is a church and any human remains will be treated with respect and reverence.
John Lees
Thursday 14th February 2013 at 2:20 pm
There are a number of comments here which suggest that this work has been commissioned with inadequate research. That couldn't be further from the truth. A huge amount of time and effort has gone into research, planning and consultation - not just with experts including architects but with those specialising in ancient buildings, and with national bodies. These plans have been made widely available, and have looked at every part of the project, including work which might involve some contact with human remains (an inevitable risk if you do any work below floor level inside or outside a church building). Professional reports have been obtained and scrutinised, and the final plans subject to exacting scrutiny from the Diocese of Chester.

It is of course reasonable to argue that the St Bart's community (and it is a community decision) could found alternative solutions. It's a difficult set of decisions to make, managing the needs of the building with the needs of its users. However to suggest that the plans have been drawn up without painstaking attention to the critical issues outlined above is a misunderstanding of a long and thorough process.
Barbara Foster
Friday 15th February 2013 at 10:27 am
May I suggest to Kathleen Morris, who states that St. Bartholomew's Church," is the warmest church she has visited ', that she does not go as often as I go, both for worship and to support the work of this wonderful church? Most attempts to heat the church are to no avail, because of its size, and height, so resources are wasted. It would be difficult to install insulation as the walls are of solid stone. The proposed changes are not just small extras, but very essential restorative work, or there will not be a church in which future generations are able to worship. Nothing has been rushed into but is the result of months and months of very intensive planning and research. All the necessary authorities have sanctioned this work, because it is essential, not ornamental. Perhaps Kathleen Morris's would like to join us week by week so that she may really appreciate the problems and challenges we face. The Rector, and all the Church wardens , and the many people involved in the planning, have not entered into this lightly, it reflects much time, energy and prayer.
Richard Pearson
Saturday 23rd February 2013 at 10:19 am
Flo & comments about church heating.
I expect old churches to be cold.
Old churches are old buildings with poor insulation & heated on infrequent occasions.
Everytime I visit an old church outside summer I notice the cold.
Old churches cannot be heated.
Insulate first before you heat.
You cannot insulate; you cannot heat succesfully.
Your stuck like our last dozen generagtions with a cold church in winter; and a plensantly cool church in summer.
Best luck with the floor, my love to Flo & John. x