Travellers set up camp in gym car park

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Some travellers have set up camp within the grounds of Total Fitness.

A group of about ten caravans arrived on Saturday, 12th October, whilst the gym was open - having been seen earlier in the day in the car park of the Jim Evison playing field.

More travellers have since arrived so there are now approximately fifteen caravans on the Total Fitness car park.

Cheshire East Council has confirmed that they will have no dealings with this latest unauthorised encampment as the travellers are located on private property.

Updated: Wednesday 16th October, 2.17pm.

The group of travellers left the grounds of Total Fitness on Monday evening, 14th October, and moved to Earl Road near Handforth Dean. They used one of their vehicles to remove the barriers and large logs that Cheshire East Council had placed across the road a couple of weeks ago.

A spokesperson for Cheshire East Council said today "A group of Travellers, consisting of nine caravans and two motorhomes are currently based on Earl Road, Handforth. They arrived at around 8.30pm on Monday (October 14).

"Council officers have visited the location and we are now moving forward with the legal process to secure possession of the site.

"We will be serving the Travellers with a notice, tomorrow, to quit by 5pm. If they do not leave the site we will seek a court order to secure repossession."

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Comments

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Brian Jackson
Monday 14th October 2013 at 3:28 pm
And even when they were on council property, the council or police did not take serious action. They (travellers) must be making fun and jokes of us Wilmslow residents who can only mourn on and on and our council or Police are unable to prevent them from camping again & again.
Neil Matthews
Monday 14th October 2013 at 3:51 pm
Oh for the love of Pete, when exactly will CEC or the Police get involved! Do they not attend burglaries if they're on private land?
Stuart Redgard
Monday 14th October 2013 at 5:22 pm
Under the laws of England and Wales, trespassing is no longer considered a criminal offence for the most part in England. Hence the police do not get involved unless other criminal offences are being committed at the same time.
Dean Fitzpatrick
Monday 14th October 2013 at 5:46 pm
Them boys are a law unto themselves.
Amy Allen
Monday 14th October 2013 at 8:46 pm
Whatever next - if I wake up in the morning and find a traveller caravan parked on my driveway, will the police or CEC not get involved because it's private property?
Nick Jones
Monday 14th October 2013 at 8:55 pm
Lets just sit back and watch..................paint dry ??? !!!!!!! Again !!!!!!!!!!!

I think this story albeit a different location has been exhausted.....

There is clearly no appetite to prevent this re-occurrence and the comments of PCC Dwyer
on similar historic threads clearly indicate his lack of interest......

So who will take positive action using existing legislation ???

RoW and local business suffer once more.
Jake Aikenhead
Monday 14th October 2013 at 9:14 pm
They have tonight (Mon 14th Oct) moved back to Earl Road opposite Tesco Handforth Dean, so the council should act on these ones.

They moved the barriers and large tree logs that CEC had placed across the road a couple of weeks ago with their vans.

Shocking!! But not surprising.
Stuart Redgard
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 12:22 am
Did anybody actually see them moving the barriers and tree logs? If they did and are prepared to give a statement to the police, then the police will be able to investigate and take the appropriate action against the alleged offenders. If that applies then report it to Cheshire Constabulary by calling 101 and make a statement.
Nick Jones
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 8:04 am
Is Wilmslow the New Afghanistan? , Solely with comparison to the levels of “INVASION”. The Afghans were ( and continued) to be invaded by hostile forces for over 2000yrs......With the exception of violence, it is not unlike the current continual sporadic travellers encampments that now regularly impact upon the RoW . These recent incursions into the taxpaying suburbs seem similarly relentless.
Ok ...Wilmslow is not on the Silk Road.... (But it is near Macclesfield’s own Silk Road !!!) And it’s not Alexander the great, Genghis Khan, or Russia invading, it’s merely some travelling Itinerants. But let’s consider these travellers human rights.... Lets at our expense allow them to park, unclamped, free of charge on private or council land, Let’s send the social workers in to make sure the children get the very best of our OFSTED accredited schools, Let’s turn a blind eye to the criminal damage to land, trespass, dumping of waste and other issues, and in the interest of The European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) ensure that they are treated fairly and humanely.
But someone needs to consider the ECHR Rights of the RoW; we are not excluded here from fair treatment. And the more CEC WTC Police etc continue to demonstrate inability to resolve these unlawful encampments quickly and effectively the more they will continue.
In the meantime maybe the travellers should now be directed to set up camp at the local council offices car parks whilst their rights and needs and those of RoW can be more directly considered.
I write tongue-in –cheek. But for goodness sake let common sense prevail and CEC WTC Local Police. somebody please grasp the nettle and start to use existing legislation in a more efficient and effective manner !
Mark Goldsmith
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 9:26 am
And so the gravy train rides again - Gypsies, CEC, Cheshire Constabulary and the PCC John Dwyer all supping from the trough that the tax payer keeps filling up.

But who will make them work for their keep?
Derek Stevens
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 10:05 am
It's been said before,but this is clearly a well coordinated action by the travellers/travellers organisation to force the council to grant permission to camp at the end of Moor Lane or any other land they are secretly purchasing!!!
Pete Taylor
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 1:04 pm
I think that Lyme Green would make a splendid travellers' camp.
Alison Warburton
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 3:27 pm
Very new caravans and top of range cars they own... guess the driveways and highway maintenance work they do pays well, especially since costs appear minimal, given that the rubble gets dumped where they set up camp for councils and ultimately us tax payers to pick up the bill. As on a previous post somewhere, it appears quite lucrative for them to live around here

A question/curiosity ... where do they get their water from?
Peter Davenport
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 5:13 pm
Following on Jake Aikenhead's remarks, as he said Ches East put the tree logs there, so it seems to me that uor great Ches East employees have not worked in the real world.
I sid to my Wife and others about this "barrier", that 2 men at the most with a lever of some sort would roll them out of the way in 30 seconds.
Another first for the glory of Cheshire East!!!!
Mark Goldsmith
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 5:28 pm
Still our PCC has looked into this issue and assures us that Cheshire Police are doing all they can to prevent this sort of crime. Good to see he is fully behind his election promise to:

"During my campaign, I set out the following priorities for Cheshire:
Zero tolerance of yobbish behaviour, bringing justice to the small minority who blight our lives, our cities, towns and villages."

Well, that's put the fear of God into the gypsies hasn't it - they won't be back anytime soon....


Ohh. wait a minute.
Sandy Martin
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 6:45 pm
well doesn't that just sum the whole situation of CE .... its a joke, and WE are the ones that still end up paying for " these people" to cause chaos around our area..........and leave us with a clean up bill again, I cant see why they are no thrown off for trespassing, If any of us did it we would be in prison, apart from the fact they don't pay any taxes at all, but hey ho lets let they continue to cause havoc... where do they get there water from??? Cheshire East get it sorted with our local boys in blue!!
Pete Taylor
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 9:18 pm
It seems that the local developers know how to instigate the help of CEC to keep travellers out: http://bit.ly/17sgmmf

13/4077M is the planning application reference.
Why can't CEC apply to themselves for a means of keeping the travellers out?

Oops, they don't apply to themselves do they?
http://bit.ly/132RZNH
Pete Taylor
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 9:29 pm
"Pete Taylor
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 1:04 pm
I think that Lyme Green would make a splendid travellers' camp. "

Do try to keep up, Pete, the Lyme Green site has been sold to Arighi Bianchi for a knock-down price, evidently.

CEC are now looking to spend £2m on another waste-transfer site... allegedly. You heard it here first.
John Rowland
Tuesday 15th October 2013 at 10:45 pm
Do these people have no shame at there flaky actions, complete contempt for local residents, businesses and ability to blame others for their plight ? ...... Anyway less about the police and council !!!
Nick Jones
Wednesday 16th October 2013 at 9:39 am
@ Mark Goldsmith / Pete Taylor / John Rowland

OK Wilmslow isnt DALE FARM yet..... but villagers in Hardhorn Lancashire ( Not Too far away ) have taken 4 years to get rid of an illegal encampment;

http://dexpr.es/1bVZ8VR..... just when they thought that common sense was to prevail an 11th hour stay in proceedings because of the travellers ECHR Rights was lodged at the court of appeal in London. Ongoing... and costly.. who pays ???

Bottom line; ... Travellers know their rights better than you,me, Police, Councillors CEC WTC etc etc........Which is all the more reason SOMEBODY in authority with knowledge and expertise needs to get the right people around the table and start 'banging heads' to protect the ECHR rights of the RoW..... Mark Goldsmith made the point .. WHO will or WHO Can ... make CEC WTC Police or their legal teams act more efficiently to taxpayers benefit

I don't think ( from previous threads) PCC Dwyer is concerned, I'm not sure (from his minuscule turn out of voters ) what he actually does for his £75k salary ( On top of his pension.. which he is of course perfectly entitled to )........ but he seems to be failing his Oath and principles .." to serve ALL the people of Cheshire,..ensure police cut crime and protect public..give a voice to the public..ensure the safety of the community..." and perhaps failing to direct law enforcement strategies ( You decide )

Travellers have been part of UK community for centuries, but there must be a balance in their respecting residents ECHR Rights as well .. But who will enforce that position ?

Trespass is not a criminal offence per-se it is a civil torte There are offences under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994of trespassing on land and trespassing with vehicles. With this in mind, police attendance may be required. Otherwise the owner of the land may need to deal by way of injunction

Pete Taylor makes a good point re Lyme Green .. But The PCC's office, Or WTC or CEC office car parks may be a better, at least the decision makers would be 'On the job' then

So who can actually pull together an effective team to deal with this recurring issue ........ Were already paying for no service.. I suspect nobody other than concerned residents read these comments anyway .......

As Confucius said " Man who stand on hill for long time with mouth open will wait a long time for roast duck to drop in "

An there's a lot of open mouths and lame ducks kicking around the fringes here !!!

John Rowland... Re your last. Excellent observation
Jamie Ross
Wednesday 16th October 2013 at 10:18 am
From what i had seen yesterday, (Tuesday) they are back on Stanley Green trading estate. On the dead end section right next to Tesco.

The 2 rather large tree stumps that the council put down to block the section of road along the old airparks carpark, were about as much use as chocolate teapots....1 4x4 vehicle and a rope took care of that! And that section of road is full of caravans!

Who though a couple of tree stumps would be a great idea to block the travellers access to a road....??
Simon Worthington
Wednesday 16th October 2013 at 12:15 pm
It appears that the itinerants gained access to Jim Everson field as the gate was unlocked to allow marking of the pitches for the weekend sports fixtures. For some reason they decided to move on very quickly and trespass on Total Fitness carpark. Far be it from me to encourage anything other than legal means to move on this antisocial rabble but if the relevant authorities cannot do the job then will we be surprised if others decide that is the way forward!!!
Mark Goldsmith
Wednesday 16th October 2013 at 5:06 pm
What do we think the chance of them moving by 5pm today is?

Less than zero I think.

So CEC will file for the court order tomorrow morning, get a hearing on Friday, won't be able to serve it because it's the weekend and it will be a week before the caravans have to move off. We then have a weeks worth of rubbish to clear up.

Why don't they just let the gypsies live in CEC and the PCC's offices as these currently seem to be a big waste of space?
Lisa Reeves
Friday 18th October 2013 at 2:34 pm
Cheshire East Council have just informed me that the travellers who have been camped on Earl Road near Handforth Dean are currently leaving the site and "heading out of the Borough".