Help identify the most dangerous roads

Cheshire East Council is asking residents to let them know which local roads they feel are most dangerous so they can focus their resources on the worst areas.

The information gathered will be used to develop an initial local community road safety programme and will also be fed into the Council's programme of speed limit reviews across the Borough.

Cheshire East residents have ranked 'improving road safety' as one of their most important highway service priorities - only 'improving the conditions of the Borough's roads' and 'tackling congestion' are rated as higher priorities.

Councillor David Topping, Cheshire East Council Cabinet member in charge of service commissioning, said: "We are a listening Council that's determined to put residents first – so it is important that people tell us what work they would like to see prioritised to improve safety for our road users.

"Writing or emailing only takes a few moments and ensures that we get the chance to meet local needs most effectively."

If you have a particular road safety concern you would like to be addressed, please email [email protected] before March 16th, ensuring the area of interest is clearly identified.

Alternatively write to: RS Consultation, 6th Floor – Delamere House, C/O Municipal Buildings, Earle Street, Crewe, Cheshire, CW1 2BJ.

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Here's what readers have had to say so far. Why not add your thoughts below.

Sandra Cox
Wednesday 25th February 2015 at 1:01 pm
For months I have been trying to alert CEC and Jones' Homes to the dangers of the exits of two proposed houses to be built on Adlington Road opposite One Oak Lane. They are far too close to the blind bend from Wilmslow. Pedestrians do not cross there even with the benefit of being able to listen for traffic which is not possible for anyone in a vehicle. My concerns have been met with indifference so I find the idea of CEC caring about road safely hard to believe. It is possible Jones' will find those houses hard to sell when prospective purchasers realise the problem.
DELETED ACCOUNT
Wednesday 25th February 2015 at 1:18 pm
Sandra you are quite correct. It is also dangerous trying to cross by Wilmslow Park Road ( another blind bend), and the only response I ever get is that because Wilmslow Park Road is private it is nothing to do with them - despite the fact that pedestrians are trying to cross Adlington Road - a maintained road. It is more than worrying that our council seem to show so little concern for resident's genuine conerns , particularly in the light of the fact that a new development of 204 houses will bring a significant number of children to the area who will be put at risk.
Simon Worthington
Wednesday 25th February 2015 at 3:03 pm
Tackling congestion!!!! Building more houses will certainly help along with allowing our favourite local developer to rent his offices and keep the allocated parking for exta rental on the open market.
John Featherstone
Wednesday 25th February 2015 at 3:05 pm
thers no such thing as a dangerous road??? its the traffic on them thats dangerous, take all traffic off them????????? its just a road
Terry Roeves
Wednesday 25th February 2015 at 4:53 pm
I have witnessed Moms with prams, children and adults forced to walk on ADLINGTON ROAD because of parked vehicles on the pavement, which is only on one side and far too narrow. One Mom even stepped off the pavement with her pram to avoid an oncoming jogger without looking. Two cars were approaching her from behind. They braked. Selfish, inconsiderate jogger of course, far too casual Mom of course, but it was a potential very serious accident situation.
I have emailed MBC, CEC and WTC staff and Cllrs over several years, yet where are we now? Hundreds objected to more houses being built on Adlington Rd, but...........
204 more houses.
CEC staff and Cllrs, you have seriously contributed to increasing danger on ADLINGTON ROAD. You don't listen to WTC, Wilmslow Trust or Residents.
Any resignations? No, a pay rise agreed and more of the same old thing.
Finally Cllr Michael Jones promised us that there would be no houses built on Adlington Rd green fields. No wonder there is a motion of no confidence.
Manuel Golding
Thursday 26th February 2015 at 11:42 am
Thank goodness Councillor Topping affirms all that is good about CEC. He asserts it is a "listening Council that is determined to put residents first" - one would find it unimaginable if it didn't listen!!!!
What planet is ge from and what "stuff" us he taking? Who does he think he is kidding? Certainly not the electors living along and around Adlington Road.
The council, from the top through all its officers, has steadfastly refused to listen to local concerns about the increased risk to users of this road with the building of 214 homes. The developers, Jones Homes, cannot be exonerated from this, as it too has continuously refused to listen or hear concerns of road safety.
Just proves the old adage - "money talks".
Both CEC & Jones Homes will justly deserve to face criminal sanctions should, G'd forbid, a death occur on this road as a result of their pursuit of mega profit over road (including pedestrians) safety.
Allan Dawson
Friday 27th February 2015 at 6:41 pm
I'm gobsmacked that people on here are talking about "pedestrians" !!!. I've lived in this area for 43 years, and have not seen many "pedestrians" walking along Adlington Rd, or anywhere else for that matter. School children are taken to school in their parents cars, or by bus, so their are no children and parents!!..if there are any, you can probably count them on the fingers of either hand!!. I find some of the comments on this topic totally unfair!!.. but that's my opinion!!
Jon Williams
Friday 27th February 2015 at 8:06 pm
Allan, Just maybe people WILL walk down Adlington Road from the new houses to the town, if the footpaths were improved !
Sandra Cox
Friday 27th February 2015 at 8:13 pm
Allan - Terry is quite right. I live off Adlington Road and can assure you there are lots of pedestrians using that road on a regular basis. They include dog-walkers like me, joggers, parents taking children on foot and in prams to the nursery on Dean Row Road, ramblers making for the Bollin Valley and just people out for a walk. Jones' Homes are encouraging the new residents in the over 200-and-counting houses they are building to walk and cycle into Wilmslow. This is development without care and responsiblity, for accidents will happen. The road and pavements are far too narrow for extra traffic but however may times it is said (and I know this is the boring, repetitive bit but it is important all the same), no one in CE or Jones' will listen.
Allan Dawson
Sunday 1st March 2015 at 6:41 pm
Jon and Sandra..I think you are both disillusioned, and caught up in the hype of the building work on Adlington Rd!!.. can I ask an honest question??.. how many on here live on Adlington Rd??.. be honest!!
Derek Stevens
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 9:00 am
Alan
An honest reply - What does it matter if contributors do or do not live on Adlington Road?
Unfortunately Adlington Road residents will be on the spot to endure any disruptions caused by any accidents.
I regularly travel on that road and it is not a road (as previously reported) that can support car and pedestrian traffic from 200+ houses.
Ryan Dance
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 10:01 am
Interesting to see how a story moves very quickly to the NIMBYs favourite subject "jones" developments.......

Entertaining!
Jon Williams
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 10:02 am
Well said Derek.
I don't live on Adlington Road, but go along it 10 times a week !
Ryan Dance
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 11:12 am
well said Allan.

you offer both a sensible & pragmatic view on this subject! Excellent analysis!
Derek Stevens
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 11:42 am
Ryan

The reason "Jones" comes up so frequently and quickly is because they allegedly own half of Wilmslow.
They have managed, over the years, to ruin a very nice town with their over-development of unwanted offices and uninteresting shop premises.
I don't think that I can level those accusations at any other building/development company concerned with Wilmslow
Ryan Dance
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 12:33 pm
Derek - it's called development & investment... the fact it happens to be one developer is not particularly interesting.

I note a quote from your earlier contribution...

"I regularly travel on that road and it is not a road (as previously reported) that can support car and pedestrian traffic from 200+ houses"

Perhaps you should use your car less on avoidable journeys or take up an alternative method of transportation & then the roads will be less congested for all.... (including 200+ new homes) you seem to be against. You, nor me have the right to any road & therefore any argument built on "we don't want extra traffic" is both absurd & downright ridiculous.
Graham Jackson
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 12:45 pm
@Ryan.. Are you employed by the Jones Group or its subsidiary's by any chance?

Comments on this post are not aimed at this particular company...just this particular development.

No one is denying the success/benefits to the local economy or the other geographical theaters they operate in, I for one congratulate their success. This has been achieved, above board, and without collusion, without co-operation of others, councillors, MP’s and other officials (elected or otherwise), or any other implication, EU, any USA law, and any law that refers emanating to any third party lane i.e. WTO or any referrals their after.

They have simply used the law of planning currently used in the borough of East Cheshire.

This is not the argument...the argument is not against Jones or any other developer...the argument is - Is the correct development in the right area?

Residents are annoyed as they were assured by a senior member of CEC, that this area would not be developed.

You and can rant and rave all you like... the electorate believed a politician ... and got stiffed...as per.
Ryan Dance
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 1:38 pm
Graham - it's good to debate. Rest assured...i do not work for Jones or any other affiliated company. I have no vested interest other than the great town of Wilmslow.

I live locally (off Manchester Road) & find negativity ....opposition to any sort off development within the Wilmlsow area truly astonishing. Hence, i like to provide a sensible alternative to the anti-development...anti Jones ...anti of any form in this part of Cheshire East.
Derek Stevens
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 1:43 pm
Graham
I was thinking exactly the same about Ryan's employment.

Ryan
I don't think I said that I used a car to travel on it, did I?
The majority of times are by cycle (leisure) although I have walked on the road also ( to gain access to the Bollin Valley footpath) and believe me it is a dangerous road. I would imagine it can only get worse when the new urban sprawl is completed.

Does John work in the next office to you?
Ryan Dance
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 2:35 pm
Derek - you can try & propel untruths if you wish! I prefer sticking to facts rather than propelling absurd conspiracy stories.

The facts are clear ....almost all development news reported on wilmslow.co.uk attracts opposition & negativity. I simply offer a more positive view of such development & will continue to voice this against the dangerous, immature & ridiculous NIMBY culture in Cheshire East. (most opposition is predicated on "we don't like traffic & we like wilmslow as it was in1950")

Look forward to our debates over many months!
Derek Stevens
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 3:12 pm
Ryan
I will leave the majority of contributors to debate with you. I somehow think that you will be outnumbered in your views.

One last question though - how long have you lived in Wilmslow?
Graham Jackson
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 3:41 pm
@Ryan

Well Ryan, your attitude is fine and I commend your opinion.

Don't be surprised though when the region becomes chocked with traffic, the areas reputation becomes worn out, any premium, or prestige or just the joy of living in Wilmslow disappears. Wilmslow will just become just another dormitory town, rest assured those that appreciate its current values will just up sticks and move else where of similar attributes.

Wilmslow will just become another transitory, dreary town, a go via the motorway , Manchester conurbation.

Go ahead, destroy the very values people strive, save and want to become apart..for me, its just not want I want... the for sale sign will be up soon.
Simon Worthington
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 5:25 pm
Ryan.
I was going to leave it to others to point out that you are on your own. If you have paid a premium to purchase a property off Manchester Road then join the rest of us who have paid a premium and associated (slightly) higher council tax to live in a pleasant area. Why should we not wish that the greenbelt is preserved as promised and that developments are necessary and in keeping and do not destroy (any further) what is left of our local shops. As for traffic I do hope you were snared along with me and many others on the crawl up Altrincham Road and Water Lane on Saturday morning to pass through Wilmslow centre.
If you have purchased then I hope you are not too disappointed when the value plummets, if you are renting then you will be able to move on to another still pleasant area without loss.
Finally, please do some research on the Jones group and their historic dealings.Then you may understand the feelings of those who have lived here for years.
Allan Dawson
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 6:52 pm
Simon Worthington..am I to understand that you live on or near Adlington Rd??
Ryan Dance
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 7:22 pm
Simon & Graham - you both offer some reasonable, rational and well thought through points to stem or control new inward investment (residential & commercial) into this part of town however you have omitted the positive benefits. There are many.

Just for clarity... Using congestion as a reason for non development is poor. Congestion is caused by each & every individual who chooses a car as a means of transportation.

I own, not rent. I very much doubt that house prices will fall. We can speculate on this matter if we wish but historical trends, supply & demand issues coupled with a swelling population infer the opposite. So let's not pretend the great golden triangle is about to suffer a catasophic price crash for a few additional homes.
DELETED ACCOUNT
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 9:07 pm
Ryan - "congestion is caused by each and every individual who chooses a car as a means of transportation". From Adlington Road the distance to the nearest Primary School is 1,449m, Secondary School 2,349m, Medical Centre 2,749m, Leisure Centre 1,849m, Bank 2049m, Post Office 2349m (Wilmslow Vision sustainability and Accessibility Report Appendix). For most of these new homes the method of transportation will be a car - there is no public transport on Adlington Road.
Ryan Dance
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 9:22 pm
Good Evening Jackie,

Maybe ive missed something...but your point is what?

most areas suffer from congestion but as i've said on many many occasions.... surely the fear of traffic jam cannot be the reason for standing still / stagnation.
Jon Williams
Monday 2nd March 2015 at 9:23 pm
And a lot of that traffic using Wilmslow Park as a short cut !
DELETED ACCOUNT
Tuesday 3rd March 2015 at 1:07 pm
Ryan - the country needs an industrial take-off - this is what stops economic stagnation. Congestion is the enemy of industrial advancement. Everyone agrees that we need more homes - the problem is where to put them so as to achieve long term, rather than short goals. We know you consider many of us to be "NIMBYS", but the constant repetition of that facile term does not advance debate, or encourage others to respond constructively to your opinions.
Ryan Dance
Tuesday 3rd March 2015 at 2:16 pm
Jackie - Fair point. I will stop making this reference however i would really encourage the good people of wilmslow to review that last 15 or so development news stories. The overwhelming response is one of negativity & opposition.

With regards to the "industrial takeoff" this is absolutely what we need....however considering the country cant even build the 250,000 houses a year we need... never mind a new airport or runway...or even HS2 / HS3 without a 20 year debate .....followed by enquiry after enquiry (thats before we get to the political agendas). I think we have some serious problems.

And while we continue to debate....disagree and snarl the economy up with ridiculous planning legislation. The BRIC, MINT & most other emerging & prosperous nations continue to grow & flourish. One example would be Dubai international taking the passenger & cargo crown from our beloved heathrow.

Clearly i'm deviating massively from the debate regarding +200 new house in wilmslow....but you get my point.
DELETED ACCOUNT
Tuesday 3rd March 2015 at 4:30 pm
Ryan - the key is to have long term growth whilst avoiding the worst problems of industrialisation. Brazil - development at the cost of destruction of the rainforest and appalling poverty. Russia and China - development on the back of effectively one party states and where opposition is crushed. In both there are high levels of air pollution and labour practices which would not be allowed in Britain. Need I go on? Planning legislation is a form of protection of the individual.
Ryan Dance
Tuesday 3rd March 2015 at 5:05 pm
Jackie - Please read my post - my reference was across many nations and not just your rather selective 3 examples (extreme at best).

We seem to be at complete opposite ends of the spectrum...i also find your views somewhat contradictory. You propel views such as "long-term growth", "sustainable development" blah blah however i'm struggling to understand your position. I have reviewed several historical development posts on this website (including Handforth dean - perfect for development most would argue) however you appear to oppose almost all developments.

Just an observation Jackie, feel free to correct me & let me know what development in Wilmslow or surrounding areas would fit your idealistic perfect world.(only caves being it needs to make economic sense e.g profit for any inward investor)
Allan Dawson
Tuesday 3rd March 2015 at 6:30 pm
Jackie, your comments are the answer to this topic.. we need more houses.. but not in our back yard!!.. go and build them elsewhere, because we do not want to devalue the property we have. We want to be on our own and not have hundreds of new people around us. The argument for safety is nonsense and selfish. The question about public transport on Adlington Rd is unbelievable, the powers that be have worked out that not many people who live on Adlington Rd and Wilmslow Park would stand out in the cold and catch a bus, rather than getting the 4x4 out of the garage and driving!!. No one on here would probably admit to this, but I suspect that this is the case...and I rest mine herewith!!!
Ryan Dance
Tuesday 3rd March 2015 at 6:40 pm
Allan - well said! on the money! Lets meet for coffee and a chat!
Jon Williams
Tuesday 3rd March 2015 at 8:02 pm
People work on Adlington Road in a Care Home, they haven't all got cars and the home is open 24 hours a day, I bet it was nice for them to be taken out along this road at one time - Not any more !
Allan Dawson
Tuesday 3rd March 2015 at 8:42 pm
Can't resist!!.. Jon, as I have said previously, I have lived in this area for 43 years!!.. I used to pick a lady up from there every Sunday morning and take her to Church.. to even assume that the home staff walked people up and down that road is both ludicrous and idiotic!!!.. get real!!
Steph Sankey
Wednesday 4th March 2015 at 8:39 am
Entertaining, yes, but are there any other dangerous roads in Wilmslow?
Surely Arlington rd & Jones' development can't steal all the limelight?
Bedells Lane? Stanneylands rd? Styal rd? Knutsford rd? Gravel lane?
Any others?
Allan Dawson
Wednesday 4th March 2015 at 6:07 pm
yes Steph..by their very nature, all roads are dangerous..unfortunately, most of the comments seem to end up as hate speech for Jones Homes and the development on Adlington Rd!!..hey-ho!!
Ryan Dance
Wednesday 4th March 2015 at 8:45 pm
I would say Manchester Road fits this bill perfectly well. They should definitely do something about this road!

It's fast moving and particularly dangerous at night.

Throw in the odd peloton or two on a sunday morning (I cycle and have never really worked out why cyclists think it's acceptable to ride on a main highway 5 wide.... even more worryingly they somehow become immune to the impact of +1 ton car). CEC need to sort this road out for sure!
Jon Williams
Wednesday 4th March 2015 at 8:50 pm
dangerous roads:
The road outside
The Emerson Group
Emerson House, Heyes Lane, Alderley Edge, SK9 7LF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fred Rayers
Thursday 5th March 2015 at 7:46 am
Morley Green, Junction of Mobberley Road and Morley Green Road. Deceptively bad, vehicles hang back leaving Morley Green Road to get a better view to the left and in doing so destroy their view to the right. A few years a car ended up in a garden, there are frequent near misses and from time to time minor collisions. I have raised it to CEC twice (& copied to Gary Barton), guess what not even the courtesey of a reply from CEC.
DELETED ACCOUNT
Thursday 5th March 2015 at 1:35 pm
Afternoon Ryan. You object to "three selective examples". Let's take the others. India, Indonesia, Nigeria, Mexico, Turkey - corruption and extreme poverty. The MINT countries are growing in prosperity because of two key factors - firstly, not only large populations, but ones where those of working age will soon outnumber the rest. Secondly, it is where the MINT countries are placed that is crucial to their development. Take Mexico - it can exploit markets North and South of it. Turkey is, and always has been, at the crossroads of the East and West.

No I do not, and have not opposed almost all development sites. It is clear that some are more appropriate for housing than others - a fact that the wilmslow sustainability appraisal failed to address. It is also true that some sites are more appropriate for retail/leisure. ( the areas which are currently seeing higher yields). Again the issue is to have them in the right place. Retail itself is undergoing a major shift as consumers move away from visiting shops - so again it is not a long term solution.
Derek Stevens
Thursday 5th March 2015 at 4:20 pm
Ryan

Let's sort out Manchester Road, or as it's know in the cycling world The Super CycleHighway to Wilmslow

Why not direct all motorised traffic heading north out of town towards Adlington Road - a nice quiet narrow country road.Oh no wait a minute! aren't they going to build a few houses down there.

Lets face it, if you buy a house off Manchester road you have to put up with cyclists travelling 5 abreast or even forming human pyramids on their bikes.

By the way, you didn't tell me how long you have lived in Wilmslow, probably slipped your mind whilst having to fend off all the other contributor to this article.
Ryan Dance
Thursday 5th March 2015 at 5:36 pm
Let's take this in order....

Jackie - the point i make is very simple. We cant oppose every development in our own little green villages...towns & cities because we don't like congestion or don't want population growth for fear of pressure on local services. Planning legislation (alongside 1950's green belt policy) is archaic, outdated, restrictive, bureaucratic and not fit for purpose in the modern age. The population is rapidly heading to +70m....so change is one indeed you are going to have to embrace (hard i know). With regards to retail changing ...i think this is fairly obvious in the digital age... however if a developer wants to build in handforth dean then let them (the site is unused and perfect for this type of development). You oppose this development don't you? I'll take some time later to detail your posts against all development news posted on wilmslow.co.uk.

Derek - I accept the traffic issues on manchester road and the sight of the odd peloton or two on a glorious sunday morning! In terms of living in Wilmslow? this is irrelevant. Why do you ask? would you like to remind me about the good old days? or does the number of years in one residence / location give you greater authority in the debating chamber?
Jon Williams
Thursday 5th March 2015 at 8:36 pm
"Lets face it, if you buy a house off Manchester road you have to put up with cyclists travelling 5 abreast or even forming human pyramids on their bikes."
Derek Stevens

Never seen that Derek !
Pete Taylor
Thursday 5th March 2015 at 9:05 pm
@ Jon Williams- I think that you will find that Ryan Dance first made that statement about riding five wide.
As a Life Member of The Manchester Wheelers Club I would have to say I have never seen folks riding five abreast or forming human pyramids on Manchester Road, or elsewhere. Incidentally Peter Emerson Jones is also a Life Member of the Manchester Wheelers Club.

I am surprised that the "Twenty's Plenty" campaign have not chipped in on this thread; presumably they know which roads are less safe than others?
Derek Stevens
Friday 6th March 2015 at 9:14 am
John
My "5 abreast cyclists" was a quip aimed at Ryan, not a truth It's a brave cyclist who would be 5 or even 4 away from the kerb. Probably on Adlington Road he would be in the middle of oncoming traffic!!!

Ryan I get the feeling that you are a very newcomer to Wilmslow, less than a year ? Any way welcome to Wilmslow.



Alan You wouldn't have a vested interest in providing a service to all the new houses on Adlington Road at some stage would you?
Ryan Dance
Friday 6th March 2015 at 9:55 am
Derek - Not a truth? ok, you are right and im making it up.You clearly frequent manchester road more than me.

Not that it make a difference. +5 years!
Helen Hayes
Tuesday 10th March 2015 at 8:53 pm
I live on Altrincham Road. A significant accident black spot is the junction between Altrincham Road and Kings Road and also Altrincham Road and Racecourse Road as both these routes are short cuts for drivers. I've campaigned and lobbied to get pedestrian crossings/proper and clear road markings or a roundabout. You get no response at all!

I've had cause sadly to ring 999 on many occasions - I now tell the despatcher to send fire/police/ambulance to Altrincham Road - they know where they should attend.
Allan Dawson
Friday 13th March 2015 at 12:07 pm
What service would that be then Derek??
Florence Collier
Sunday 15th March 2015 at 1:02 pm
On behalf of the 20's Plenty campaign and Transition Wilmslow, we have emailed the consultation committee.
You can also see the results of a survey from our stall over a year ago, as part of our Green Infrastructure study with students from the University of Manchester. Wilmslow residents were asked to identify "good places to walk or cycle" with green dots, and "bad/dangerous places to walk or cycle" with red dots.
See Appendix F (last page):
http://bit.ly/1EmOeTW
Pippa Jones
Sunday 15th March 2015 at 4:52 pm
You may also be interested to look back at the 2012 Wilmslow Vision where a group of residents from across the town, representing a considerable number of different organisations, came up with a strategy for Wilmslow that included:

"The town centre will have an increasingly integrated transport network which provides alternatives to travelling by car and will be a safe, walking and cycling town".
(Wilmslow Vision 2012).

It would be great if CEC could consider this ambition in their road safety campaign.
Marianne Broadgate
Sunday 15th March 2015 at 9:28 pm
We are in a downward spiral of increasing car use with increasing risk on the roads. It is almost impossible to walk anywhere in Wilmslow for any distance without experiencing the following dangers:

1. pavements that are too narrow, particularly problematic when you are walking with children.
2. vehicles taking inappropriate short-cuts, usually driving too fast, along small roads to combat the traffic.
2. vehicles parking on pavements making it impossible to pass without going into the road
3. insufficient pedestrian crossings

If we could have more "joined up" pedestrian routes I think this would help.

Many more of us would walk, cycle or take the train if it was not so busy on the roads (thus making the roads less busy). The benefits are significant:

1. It's healthier to walk/cycle (cardio exercise and less polluting)
2. It's cheaper
3. It's more fun, particularly when you have children
4. It helps our community connect