Gearing up for 20mph limit in village centre

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Following concerns from residents about high-performance cars and the manner in which some of them are being driven the Council is considering introducing a 20mph speed limit through the village centre.

Last year Councillor Craig Browne asked for a traffic assessment to be carried out which involved Automatic Traffic Counters (ATCs) being positioned at three locations on London Road for a seven-day period.

The results, which have now been published in the Stage 1 Feasibility Report, show that 85% of all vehicles were travelling at or below 25mph outside the former RBS and 23mph at the pelican crossing near the junction with Stevens Street, but 34mph at the third data collection point (by the de Trafford Arms). 37.2% of vehicles were exceeding 30mph at this location.

The report recommends that a 20mph zone should be implemented on London Road from the junction with Ryleys Lane to the junction with Macclesfield Road using signs on both sides of London Road along with painting 20mph on the road to highlight the start and exit points of the 20mph zone.

Councillor Craig Browne explained "The diversity of road users through the village (cyclists, emergency vehicles, buses etc) complicates the installation of physical speed control measures.

"Speed humps or carriageway narrowing measures were not considered to be practical options; however, the report does recommend that consideration should be given to the introduction of other physical infrastructure such as speed cushions."

At a meeting at the beginning of July, attended by representatives from Cheshire East Highways, Cheshire East Council's Anti-Social Behaviour Team, Cheshire Police and Alderley Edge Parish Council, there was broad support for the proposals, but with a modification that the zone should be extended at each end of the village to include Alderley Edge School for Girls and the junction with Beechfield Road on Congleton Road.

Craig added "A Stage 2 report will now be produced showing detailed design options, which will then be subject to a round of public consultation. This next stage in the process is estimated to take between three to six months.

"I would like to thank all the agencies for supporting me to make progress with this issue; in the meantime Cheshire Police will continue to monitor driver behaviour in the area."

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Mark Russell
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 6:54 am
This is a perfect example of local councillors changing speed limits in a piecemeal fashion to win/keep votes.

They can make the speed limit 5mph but it won’t make a single bit of difference without enforcement. Nobody enforces parking or speeding so all this is a waste of time and effort.
Julian Barlow
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 9:08 am
What a bizarre response. There's nothing wrong with the current speed limit, it just need to be enforced regularly and very visibly.
Tom Simcock
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 10:01 am
Mr M Russell and J Barlow, They have both got it dead right,
There's no need to change the existing speed limit Just Enforce it, job dun.
Robert Taylor
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 10:04 am
It would appear that a simple bit of enforcement and/or calming near the de Trafford Arms and the junction would solve the 'problem'.
Tom Simcock
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 11:11 am
Mr M Russell and J Barlow, They got it dead right there is no need to change the
speed limit just inforce the existing one, Job dun.
Robin Anson
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 11:31 am
As well as breaches of the speef limit, I have to contend frequently with drivers pulling out onto the main road from Macclesfield Road as if they have right of way. This occurs whether I am travelling from the Nether Alderely direction or from the Wilmslow direction. I have observed a wosening of driving standards since lockdown restrictions were eased with drivers pullling out into the traffic from the Waitrose car park, often while speaking on mobile phones. Will the proposed speed restruction help this or make it worse?.
Barbara Hughson
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 12:23 pm
Won't stop the idiots shooting along Macclesfield Road at all times of the day and night. If you restrict them in one place, they'll just move elsewhere
Nick Jones
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 1:05 pm
Nonsense. No statistical justification .
Graham Peters
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 1:06 pm
As per previous comments - enforcement required. Only an idiot would drive at over the 30mph speed limit through the village; unfortunately that’s in evidence that there are a number of said ‘idiots’ who parade their souped up cars at the weekend.
Driving along the main Alderley Rd past the Playing fields at 30mph results in cars behind hounding your back bumper and pulling out as if about to make an overtake.
It’s very debatable why that stretch was reduced from 40 to 30?? It’s not as if it’s densely populated?
Nick Jones
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 1:09 pm
continued... without reinforcing enforcement and exactly how many people have been prosecuted... Station Road Wilmslow, where there is a 'blind' footpath hidden by a bridge, used by School Students in the middle of a dangerous staggered give way is far more dangerous.. just nonsense.
Keith Chapman
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 7:36 pm
This is just a kite being flown to get a reaction. The reaction is uniformly negative so the Council should think again. This is a clear vote loser which will result in decent people being ticketed for breaching a ridiculously low speed limit, whilst those in performance vehicles continue to parade their inflated egos elsewhere.
Manuel Golding
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 7:42 pm
Admittedly London Road has thus far been the focus of these idiotic, brainless, couldn't care less drivers but the plague has spread from both London Rd & Melrose Way into Wilmslow.

For nearly 7 hours last Sunday we had to endure this playground race track mayhem; the roaring noise these idiot's cars make is way beyond acceptable; it is anti-social,the noise of screeching engines, the skidding tyres, hastily applied brakes not to mention the air pollution and the sheer waste of police time & resources.

Average Speed Cameras are the answer together with noise monitoring of vehicles the police may feel need checking.

The police officers tried to tell me the parking in Fulshaw Park was a "civil enforcement issue", this was a clear case of "buck passing". It is not a council issue in any "Access Only" area but a police responsibility. When in doubt blame someone else seems to be the mantra.

We saw the inadequate police response to the many Fulshaw Park illegal car parkers, even when shown the actual official Prohibition of Entry Order, they failed to understand the clear message. RoW has now sent a copy of said order to the Police & Crime Commissioner for his comments and hope for police action.
Graham Steel
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 8:23 pm
I am glad they have decided against speed bumps - speed bumps punish drivers of small cars regardless of speed, whilst drivers of large vehicles can just glide over them at any speed. I agree with everybody else - there is far more value in enforcing the current limit than in setting a lower limit that simply does not apply to motorists in larger vehicles.
Jon Williams
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 8:46 pm
Jon Armstrong
Wednesday 22nd July 2020 at 9:53 pm
Admittedly I don't drive up it very often - only occasionally on a weekend - but I can only assume I'm thinking of a different London Road in Alderley Edge to most people here. The one I know generally has parked cars on both sides of the road, is busy with traffic, there are pedestrians all over the place, vehicles reverse parking and traffic coming into and out of side streets every few yards. 30mph definitely isn't an appropriate speed in those circumstances. The readings from the ATCs suggest I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Graham Peters
Sunday 16th August 2020 at 6:49 pm
This latest InstaGram post does nothing to help

https://www.instagram.com/p/CD80dgwp1ZN/?igshid=1gl29nxbtihk4

Not a good image of ‘Socially Responsible Driving’
Fiona Doorbar
Tuesday 18th August 2020 at 11:17 am
All reg numbers are visible on instagram footage! Why can this not be used? Instead we have a questionnaire that may or may not prompt action.
Yvonne Bentley
Tuesday 18th August 2020 at 12:16 pm
I clicked on the link and just saw pictures of cars. So I am confused as for what their reg numbers can be used
Yvonne Bentley
Tuesday 18th August 2020 at 12:23 pm
As I asked on the sister site. The link only seems to show photographs not footage. So for what would you use the visible registration numbers?
Fiona Doorbar
Tuesday 18th August 2020 at 1:09 pm
There is video footage Yvonne which clearly shows examples of reckless accelerating. They may well not be speeding but there are limits on the amount of noise residents should have to put up with!
Vince Chadwick
Tuesday 18th August 2020 at 1:39 pm
To see the footage of the reckless driving click on the link (reproduced here).

https://www.instagram.com/p/CD80dgwp1ZN/?igshid=1gl29nxbtihk4

This will bring up the pictures. On the right hand side of the centre picture is a right-pointing arrow in a small white circle. Click on this, and you will see the video.

Click on the 'play' button on the video to see the idiocy.
Yvonne Bentley
Tuesday 18th August 2020 at 2:28 pm
Thank you for your response ( I am aware of what a video looks like ) but again, when I pressed the link it just shows three still photos
Vince Chadwick
Tuesday 18th August 2020 at 3:38 pm
You may be aware of what a video looks like, Yvonne, but you seem to have failed to read my post, which clearly tells you how to get from the 3 pictures to the video. It's just standard electronic media navigation (to advance to the video, press the right arrow, to go back, press the left). It's really quite intuitive.
Nick Jones
Tuesday 18th August 2020 at 3:50 pm
The answer appears in the question here surely....'the manner in which some of them are being driven'... This, along with the CEC survey documented on Wilmslow.co.uk, but not Alderley edge.com..http://www.wilmslow.co.uk/news/article/20654/council-considers-how-to-tackle-anti-social-behaviour-and-supercars
.... is total obfuscation to detract from those with the designated legislative powers to engage in enforcement.

We celebrate having Local businesses that sell Rolls/ Aston / McLaren / Porsche / Ferrari / BMW to our residents, employing staff etc … but the responsibility of the driver.. is exactly that.

So.. Over any given period of months, years, exactly how many prosecutions have occurred ? I suspect very few.. if indeed any at all !…

There are surely far more important issues that truly affect people’s lives at this unique Covid led time than this.
Yvonne Bentley
Tuesday 18th August 2020 at 4:17 pm
Have got it now Vince. I did read your Initial instructions . I found that you have to swipe the still photos right to left rather than look for an arrow to the right of the centre picture as advised.Thank you for your assistance
Fiona Doorbar
Tuesday 18th August 2020 at 4:56 pm
There was an article in the daily mail yesterday about this Wilmslow/Alderley problem btw! Hopefully the police will sort things out

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