Plans for new care home cause concern

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Plans have been submitted for the demolition of two detached properties and the erection of a care home.

Local residents are in uproar over plans to demolish two four bedroomed detached houses at 51 to 53 Handforth Road in Wilmslow and replace them with an 83 bedroomed care home.

Altrincham based Newcare Project LLP are planning to build a three-storey care home with 24 car parking spaces and eight covered cycle parking spaces.

Local resident Sue Kingston said "In my opinion this proposal would be overbearing on neighbouring properties and out of character being overdeveloped in an otherwise low density residential area."

Neighbour Mike Ramsden said "This proposed development will have a significant effect on those residents surrounding this development on Handforth Road, Tarporley Walk, Swale Close and Lamerton Way all of whom will be overlooked by residents of the Care Home.

"Number 47 & 49 Handforth Road particularly will have no privacy in their back gardens since most of the proposed bedrooms of the care home will face directly onto our rear gardens. Even with some screening on the boundary there will be outside noise emanating from such a large development with gardens and pathways for the residents designed right up to our boundary.

'We purchased our properties many years ago because they were not overlooked to the front and rear. Not in a million years could we foresee being overlooked from the side boundary. We will not be able to enjoy the same privacy and tranquillity we currently have in the future."

He added "There will be a constant flow of vehicles visiting the proposed care home which will have 24 parking spaces. These will include staff, family & friends visiting residents and vans and wagons making deliveries."

Mike continued "What strain will over 83 very elderly residents put on the existing medical practises in Handforth who are already stretched to their limit.

"There is also a proposed Care Home being built at Coppice Way (adjacent to Handforth Dean Shopping Centre) by Jones Homes and an existing Care Home near Browns Lane both of which are no more than ¼ to ½ mile away. Why is such another large Care Home required so close to other Care Homes?"

It is proposed that the care home would employ 50 full-time and 40 part-time members of staff.

The plans can be viewed on the Cheshire East Council website by searching for planning reference 18/1025M. The last date for submitting comments is 5th April and a decision is expected by 31st May.

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Derek Ferguson
Wednesday 14th March 2018 at 1:39 pm
Instead of building something out of character with the area, why not renovate Cypress House (before it falls down)?
Steven Kingsby
Wednesday 14th March 2018 at 4:51 pm
Absolutely disgraceful, to demolish 2 perfectly good 1930's solid brick houses that most people would be proud to live in.
A money making scheme by the Owners, forget its a Care home thats nothing to do with it. It's all about making money.
This gigantic monstrosity would be a blot on the landscape. 3 storeys, large car park and huge development is unbelievable.
This is a residential road and would be totally out of character with the area. If this were to go ahead I totally feel sorry for the neighbours.
There is already another being built nearby at Hall Road.
Cheshire East please do not let this happen.
I have heard there is a Planning Committee meeting at the Carrs Council Office on Monday 26th March at 19.30hrs. Please go and give your objections.
Pete Robins
Wednesday 14th March 2018 at 5:37 pm
The care home which is next to the bulls head on Manchester road which was closed is now in a derelict state why can't they build a new one on that site ,another complete waste of tax payers money again
John Featherstone
Wednesday 14th March 2018 at 7:54 pm
renovate cypress house, has car park, and near shops, and all ready there
Stuart Redgard
Wednesday 14th March 2018 at 9:50 pm
See the following article about Cypress House written in April 2015.

http://bit.ly/2pe2LAA

The latest news that I can find available that's in the public domain is a revised planning application was submitted in September 2016. That's 17 months ago and it's still not been determined! I wonder what's holding it up?

http://bit.ly/2tNujlF
Elizabeth Jackson
Thursday 15th March 2018 at 7:56 am
Absolute disgrace. A very inappropriate and unnecessary development in a mature residential area. How can this be allowed when there is an empty care home so close by. Completely out of character for the area.
Jon Williams
Thursday 15th March 2018 at 10:34 am
Good news that, a Care Home in a residential area, after all, that the place that the elderly should live
Steven Kingsby
Thursday 15th March 2018 at 5:30 pm
well Jon Williams, let's knock down the house next to you and build it
Jon Williams
Thursday 15th March 2018 at 8:17 pm
No problem Steven
Marcia McGrail
Friday 16th March 2018 at 11:03 am
50 full time staff? 40 part time? 83 residents? (who may or may not have cars but may have family/friends visiting)...TWENTY FOUR parking bays??? - who does the maths for them? - totally inappropriate proposal for such a constrained site.
Jon Armstrong
Friday 16th March 2018 at 4:48 pm
Doing the maths, I don't actually think it's far off on parking.

Running a care home needs staffing 24/7 365 days a year. So, for the sake of argument, you run 3 shifts a day making 21 shifts per week giving 1092 shifts you need to staff each year. 50 full time staff working 40 hour weeks and allowing for holidays and sickness will work about 230 shifts each per year, meaning less than a quarter of them will be on site at any time. (I know it's likely not to be evenly distributed during the day but let's keep it simple for now). If we assume the part timers work 20 hours each week, you're still not likely to have more than high teens to 20 staff on site at a time.

Not all members of staff will drive, and I doubt anyone living in a care home will have their own car. And how many of the 83 residents will have visitors there at the same time? Not that many. So 24 bays is a bit stingy but probably not that far off.
Steven Kingsby
Friday 16th March 2018 at 4:57 pm
Great news for Newcare Homes. Find out where Jon lives and build it next to him. Apparently he has no objections.
Jon Armstrong
Friday 16th March 2018 at 6:03 pm
I realise I used words of several syllables and a few of those troublesome numbers, but if you'd taken the trouble to read it you would have found my comment entirely limited to analysis of the number of parking spaces required.

But much better to make hysterical statements, tell lies and shout down anyone who tries to bring facts into it. You'll fit in perfectly here.

Anyway, it's too late they've already built 200+ houses next to me.
Steven Kingsby
Friday 16th March 2018 at 8:17 pm
Too many Jon's, especially a sarcastic touchy Armstrong.
My comment was meant for Jon Williams, but as they "if the cap fits".
If, Armstrong, you had read it properly you may have had the common sense to realise that there is more Jon's than you.
Estelle Lewis
Friday 16th March 2018 at 10:03 pm
Re the car parking problem. Have any of you ever visited an old people's home? Sadly, many of the residents rarely see their family and have few visitors.

Fewer parking spaces therefore shouldn't be a problem
Alan Brough
Friday 16th March 2018 at 10:46 pm
Sadly true Estelle Lewis, not many visitors at elderly care homes and certainly not many resident parking places required.

Perhaps the nay-sayers need to take a long hard look at themselves.

Yes we should ask questions about the high cost of privatised care of our elderly, but certainly we need to provide much more consideration and compassion for those of us who are approaching the final straight.
Oliver Romain
Friday 16th March 2018 at 11:12 pm
A purpose built care home sounds like a useful resource allowing more local people to live locally in old age and providing employment.
Jon Williams
Saturday 17th March 2018 at 10:04 am
Well said Oliver
Steven Kingsby
Saturday 17th March 2018 at 12:39 pm
Jon Williams, Oliver Romain, Alan Brough, Jon Armstrong and all the other do-gooders you are missing the point.
Its not that the community doesn't need care homes there is an empty
one nearby.

Parking is just a side issue but obviously Jon Armstrong's favourite subject as his speciality is Maths but also expert in English Grammar. What a wonderful world you must live in, I can only aspire to be as clever as you.

A company building a Care home is not doing it for the good of anyone apart from themselves. It is purely done for financial gain and if you don't realise that then you are all living in Cloud Cuckoo Land.
Deleted Account
Monday 19th March 2018 at 1:28 am
Everybody,

I urge you to go and look closely at the site.

You will not have to climb over fences or trespass to see it is overly large and woefully wrong for this small plot of land.

Sadly it is yet another example of a greedy developer trying hard to bring something inappropriately large to north Wilmslow...
Tony Haluradivth
Tuesday 20th March 2018 at 10:00 pm
That's a bit of a sweeping statement from the "generalisers" on here my Sister in Law was in a Care Home (she had Parkinsons). My wife (her sister ) used to visit her every day, these homes are a money making machine my sister sold her house to pay for care as she did not wish to live with any family. We had to be on top of her care needs as the home employed endless Bank staff who didn't care or have a relationship with the residents (and this was one of the more expensive homes). These folk who build homes like this are NOT doing the community a favour and one of the biggest issues we had at the home my Sister in law was in (it was built 13 years ago and heralded as a truimph of sustainable architecture) eas the heat of the place in the Summer. It was one of these stupid "passive" buildings. The window in my relative's room had a suicide bolt (she was paralysed) and it was on the ground floor! We measured the heat on her room at 88f on several days and as elderly and frail folk cannot regulate their body temp they had to be woken at 2.00 am to be sponged down so they did not expire. It was a nightmare for staff , residents and visitors and we often said how we dreamed of getting hold of the original "noddy" of an architect and locking him or her on the top floor where it was in the 90's for a hot weekend. I see these architects and "designers" for this home on Handforth Road are hoping to achieve the same kind of build. I say a big fat NO to their plans and wish the residents of Handforth Road good luck in seeing these folk off. They can build it in Altrincham next to their OWN houses for a change.
Matthew Butler
Thursday 22nd March 2018 at 1:30 am
So there's a (refused) planning application on Adlington road to replace a care home with houses, a current planning application on Handforth road to replace houses with a care home and an empty care home in Handforth. Joined up thinking???