Plans for another house on site of former pub

Plans have been submitted for a new detached house on vacant land which was part of a former public house.

Having been granted planning permission to replace The Riflemans Arms on Moor Lane with 8 dwellings in July 2013, New Moor GB Ltd are seeking permission to build a two-storey, three bedroom house along with three car parking spaces.

The vacant site is situated on the west side of New Street and was previously used as a car park.

The plans can be viewed on the Cheshire East Council website by searching for planning reference 18/0183M. The last date for submitting comments is 21st February and a decision is expected by 15th March.

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Moor Lane, Planning Applications, Riflemans Arms
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Chris Wigley
Wednesday 31st January 2018 at 5:21 pm
That looks totally out of keeping with the area around New Street and Moor Lane.
Jackie Pass
Wednesday 31st January 2018 at 5:30 pm
Couldn't agree more Chris. It comes from attempting to get a quart into a pint pot. That person at the window has to be Tony Hart's "morph".
Oliver Romain
Wednesday 31st January 2018 at 5:31 pm
Chris I don’t think the style is a planning issue as it’s not a conservation area. It’s certainly very different from the surrounds.
Maria Quin
Wednesday 31st January 2018 at 5:32 pm
Another disgraceful act by Cheshire East planning! I’d love to know what motivates them to ignore their constituents wishes on so many planning situations and to allow a house that looks like a public lavatory to be built in a traditional area of Wilmslow!! Wonder what it is?£
Martin Kitchin
Wednesday 31st January 2018 at 5:34 pm
Application reference: 18/0183M
The Riflemans Arms
113 Moor Lane
Wilmslow
SK9 6BY
Comments: Object to the proposal
Commentors interest: Local group,
Comments made: I appreciate that aesthetics can be a difficult issue but the proposed
design is not at all sympathetic to the existing homes is it ?
We are not saying that every planning application should have dual pitched roofs, sash
windows, georgian bars and red brick but a vague nod to the neighbours is surely
desirable.
We genuinely thought that we were looking at images for commercial premises
(Doctors surgery, dentists, day nursery, restaurant etc ) & not a private house.
Clive Cooksey
Wednesday 31st January 2018 at 5:48 pm
That will stick out like a sore finger. Lets see what the blue sky planning "advisers" say about this one.
Sue Hinchliffe
Wednesday 31st January 2018 at 6:40 pm
Haha!! What a joke. If it goes ahead how are the new occupants going to feel about having a row of cars permanently parked virtually on their lawn? (No consideration at all for existing New Street residents but no surprises there at all.) Well I suppose it can join that overpriced blot on the landscape with the Greco Roman pillars next door. If those eejits on the planning committee pass this I'll know for definite there is a large void where their brains should be!!
Martin Kitchin
Wednesday 31st January 2018 at 9:04 pm
Clive,

Maybe something possibly on the lines of it being a welcome contrast to the surrounding brick and tile.....Hah !
Dave Cash
Thursday 1st February 2018 at 3:48 am
Out of keeping with local area, I preferred the Rifleman's Car Park.
As previously mentioned, Newlands Drive already has Trump Towers/White House.
Julie Green
Thursday 1st February 2018 at 8:46 am
Hideous!
Jackie Pass
Thursday 1st February 2018 at 9:01 am
"Maybe something possibly on the lines of it being a welcome contrast to the surrounding brick and tile" - the phrase used on the Lidl planning application.

I suspect that the planning department has a "phrase bank" to pick from to try and defend their judgments.
Martin Kitchin
Thursday 1st February 2018 at 8:04 pm
Jackie,

". .welcome contrast to the surrounding brick and tile"

I knew I'd read that before somewhere.

In fact, this new house has more than a passing resemblance to the superstore Lidl want to put up next to homes on Summerfields Village.
Barbara Scott
Saturday 3rd February 2018 at 5:52 pm
Already put my objection to the plans in. But the Councillors who give planning permission don't live locally, so they don't care.
Barbara Scott
Saturday 3rd February 2018 at 8:25 pm
I love the comments about this matter, so true. It's sod the locals, we know better, we don't live there. So can I come and build in your backyard Mr Councillors, put I won't say please you don't.
Oliver Romain
Sunday 4th February 2018 at 7:12 am
Without the area being a conservation area there is little point objecting about the fact it is a contemporary design. It’s the law of the land no conspiracy. If councillors object just because some people don’t like the style decision will be overturned on appeal wasting taxpayer cash.
Find real planning reasons for objection then campaign for conservation area if you think the character of the area is worth keeping but be aware conservation area affects alterations to all houses in the area, including yours.
Ryan Dance
Sunday 4th February 2018 at 7:41 am
Stark contrast. Change is difficult.

The new builds get savaged on here for being “cookie cutter boxes”.

I don’t think the developers can appeal to all!
Martin Kitchin
Sunday 4th February 2018 at 8:33 am
Hello Ryan Dance,

You say :-

"I don’t think the developers can appeal to all!"

I think that residents can however appeal against the detrimental impact upon their residential amenities and the visual impact this development will have on them.

By this I mean what it will be like to look at, not about the the loss of a view.

This list isn't exhaustive but it might include the following :-

(1) Impact on the character of an area
(2) Density
(3) Possible over-development of the site
(4) Maybe its design
(5) External appearance of buildings and landscaping.

I believe in planning circles that these are called material considerations ?

It could be worth you and other residents doing some research before going on to the Cheshire East planning portal to register your objections.


All the best,

Martin.
Ryan Dance
Sunday 4th February 2018 at 10:54 am
Good luck with your material considerations. I hear / see / read this stuff all the time. Most of the issues raised are often exaggerated and overblown. Flat roofs...building heights....road layout....building density....blah blah...!

The reality is - a large swathe of contributors on here take issue with any development .....of any kind.
Martin Kitchin
Sunday 4th February 2018 at 7:55 pm
Hello Ryan Dance,

You comment on your objections to the New Street planning application.

The information is readily available and it's is actually relatively simple to appeal so don't be dispirited. You might also like to speak to your local Councillor.

Good luck to you and your neighbours.

All the best,

Martin
Dave Cash
Sunday 4th February 2018 at 11:25 pm
I understand WTC Planning Comm. should formulate a non-binding response to CEC at their meeting in the Parish Hall at 7.30pm on Mon 12th Feb.
Martin Kitchin
Monday 5th February 2018 at 5:22 pm
Hi Dave Cash,

Thanks for the information regarding the Wilmslow Town Council Planning Committee meeting in the Parish Hall at 7.30pm on Mon 12th Feb.

We''ll be there !

I understand that Residents of Wilmslow (ROW) are also interested in this development .

Isn't it good to see the Wilmslow residents together on this and other inappropriate developments that threaten our community ?

Its also good to see this media giving everyone the opportunity to do just that. (Thank you Lisa Reeves)

All the best,

Martin
Alex Saint
Wednesday 7th February 2018 at 12:13 pm
As a resident of Newlands Drive I have to say this doesn't bother me nearly as much as the magnolia attrocity with Greek pillars alongside it. It is truthful to the period it is being built in.

By the time you consider Chapel Lane / Moor Lane / Cumber Lane and Gravel Lane and all the roads that connect them you have a number of styles of homes built over a long time period including different brick colour, rendering and styles of window. The only thing they really have in common is that they have pitched roofs. This area of the world is hardly 'chocolate box' cottages and dry stone walls. The phrase 'not in keeping with the area' is the most over used phrase with this kind of argument, I would just switch off if I was a planner the second someone uttered those words.

Would I design a home for this plot that looked exactly like that? Probably not. Do I disgaree with it and use words like 'hideous' just because it is of a contemporary aesthetic and without a pitched roof? Absolutely not.
Martin Kitchin
Tuesday 13th February 2018 at 2:21 pm
Hello Alex,

Just a pity it's been styled to contrast so markedly with the surrounding homes.

Even the vaguest nod to what it's next to might have been good wouldn't it surely ?

There's been a number of one off new builds over the past few months & the vast majority blend in well. This doesn't.
Martin Kitchin
Monday 19th February 2018 at 4:07 am
Alex Saint,

Yesterday we saw the extended and rendered pillared house

Reassuringly, Wilmslow Town have seen fit to recommend refusal of this latest New Street rendered house on the grounds of it being contrary to Policy SE2 3(i) of the Local Plan (out-of-keeping with the streetscene)

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