Have your say on plans for retirement accommodation

A retirement housebuilder is inviting residents to view their plans for new accommodation on Holly Road North.

McCarthy & Stone is planning to build 35 new retirement apartments incorporating a mix of one and two bedroom units, alongside facilities which include a residents' lounge and office for the House Manager.

The proposed development is three storeys and occupies a vacant plot, with planning permission, and the next door plot which is currently occupied by a house. The scheme includes 20 onsite car parking spaces.

Steve Secker, Regional Managing Director for McCarthy and Stone (Northern Region) said; "We have spent time carefully researching the local architecture to ensure that our proposal is in - keeping and sympathetic to its surroundings, but now we want to hear the views of the local community.

"Members of our project team will be on hand at the public exhibition to answer questions and listen to feedback. The proposals are at a very early stage and where possible we will amend our plans to reflect people's comments."

McCarthy & Stone is holding a public exhibition for people to come and view the proposals on Thursday 2nd April between 3pm and 7pm at Wilmslow British Legion Club, 10 Grove Avenue, Wilmslow, SK9 5EG.

In the meantime if you have any comments you can call their freephone information line on 0800 298 7040 or visit their consultation website.

Cllr Rod Menlove said "There are two housing development proposals in the Alderley Road area that warrant serious consideration.

"The more recent is the proposal by McCarthy & Stone for 35 retirement apartments on adjacent sites in Holly Road North.

"We canvassed the opinions of local residents a fortnight ago and found that in general the response to the principle was favourable. Naturally there were concerns on matters such as the size and design of these apartments. However, the planning applications have yet to be submitted so all residents will have the opportunity to make their views known. We offered to update the residents with any information that came our way and we now have email addresses to facilitate that. Should anyone else like to be added to that list then please contact me.

"The earlier proposal is the one to build about 65 luxury retirement apartments on the former council Remenham site and the planning application has yet to be submitted.

"Both schemes are welcome in that they offer options for older residents to downsize and, as a result, free up much needed family properties for younger people."

www.mccarthyandstone-consultation.co.uk/wilmslow.

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Holly Road North, McCarthy & Stone
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Comments

Here's what readers have had to say so far. Why not add your thoughts below.

Philip Barton
Wednesday 25th March 2015 at 5:40 pm
Residents opposite on Holly Road north may not be so happy with this but at least something is being done about that vacant site empty for more years that I can remember. Questions I would raise is why 3 storeys when others on the road are 2 ( well I suppose the towns houses are 3). The other points to note is the red dotted line (which I guess purports to be the existing property) is on the wrong plot, not very auspicious, and to achieve the 3 storeys within the height they are having to excavate which given the drainage problems there may be a future problem. Things to look into at the consultation.
DELETED ACCOUNT
Wednesday 25th March 2015 at 6:53 pm
The plus point is that there is a need for retirement homes in wilmslow, but that need is not necessarily for more retirement apartments, because there are many already and more in the pipeline. These do not seem to be "extra-care", which Cheshire East hopes to expand, rather these seem to be intended for 60 - 75 age bracket. In which case why is there only provision for 20 parking spaces when there are 35 apartments, particularly when some parking provision will be needed for vsiting relatives, doctors, nurses etc and many of the two bedroomed properties may also have two cars.
David Jefferay
Wednesday 25th March 2015 at 7:40 pm
I haven't looked at it in any detail but seems like a good proposal to me... good number of units, an ideal location and they appear to be quite a nice design too.
Terry Roeves
Wednesday 25th March 2015 at 7:44 pm
100 homes on brown field sites! Good news for our greenbelt.
Nick Jones
Wednesday 25th March 2015 at 7:50 pm
At least the yellow lines on the road are already down to impede visitors and affect their price
Toni Fox
Wednesday 25th March 2015 at 9:40 pm
I agree with the concerns raised by Jackie in respect of the amount of car parking being proposed in this development. McCarthy & Stone completed the retirement apartments on Wilmslow Road in Handforth nearly three years ago now yet they have never achieved full occupancy or any way near it for the simple reason that there are not enough car parking spaces available. Folk may want to downsize but the majority still want their independence and that means most will still have at least one car. 20 car parking spaces for 35 apartments seems woefully inadequate.
Sarah Paterson
Thursday 26th March 2015 at 9:08 am
Terry, it may in principle be good for the green belt but the green belt is being rapidly eroded so only a drop in the ocean.
Yes, it is classed as brownfield but sat within a residential area that will be impacted heavily by the size of this development and extra traffic created.
Concerns also have to be raised regarding the deep excavations needed for underground parking and the inevitable consequences of that on the surrounding area.
Pete Taylor
Friday 27th March 2015 at 5:06 pm
From Cheshire East Parking Standards: http://bit.ly/1zKwaTg

C3. Flats and apartments 1 space per unit
Therefore that is at least 35 spaces, plus spaces for managers/staff and a provision for visitors.

If the building is classed as a "house in multiple occupation" then two bedrooms require two parking spaces.
DELETED ACCOUNT
Friday 27th March 2015 at 9:41 pm
Pete - that's interesting. Even if these were classed as sheltered housing because there is a manager - it would still not fulfill the parking requirments.
Jon Armstrong
Friday 27th March 2015 at 10:37 pm
Sheltered residential accommodation is C2 and only requires 1 space per 10 units though. This would seem to meet that criteria.

I have relatives in two of these McCarthy and Stone homes, and unless they are going for a complete different demographic here then most residents won't have one car per unit never mind two.
Jon Armstrong
Friday 27th March 2015 at 10:43 pm
Just realised I read the wrong row on that!
Rehana Hindle
Saturday 28th March 2015 at 9:54 pm
My concerns are if the trees are removed as currently it's very leafy road and if the accommodation is not set back from the road. Height and in keeping with the detached houses opposite in respect of materials used for the built are crucial
adding ugliness or industrial look is a big big concern.
Parking -underground parking would help, so the houses opposite don't have to look at a car park like Waters in wilmslow.
So glad it's for retirement accommodation, I think 35 apartments is a lot. !!
Stuart Redgard
Saturday 28th March 2015 at 10:27 pm
I understand concerns about parking, but my personal experience of this type of development is similar to John's. My father lived in this type of development in the centre of Harrogate for over 10 years . There were 30 flats and 20 parking spaces and residents had to be over 55. Most of the residents didn't own cars. For the first 5 years of living their Dad owned and drove a car and never once had a problem parking it. Each resident was allowed to have a single parking pass for their own vehicle and a single visitors pass. I never had a problem with parking when visiting Dad for over 10 years and I always went in my own car. The biggest problem was members of the public using this "private parking facility" to go and use the large Asda store immediately adjacent to the development.

Is this a real or perceived issue? Look at the existing developments in Wilmslow similar to this on Grove Avenue and Albert Road. Does anybody know is there are parking problems there?
DELETED ACCOUNT
Sunday 29th March 2015 at 12:30 pm
I understand the point you are making Stuart, but, expectations and lifestyle of older people have changed since many similar properties in Wilmslow were built. As Toni has said earlier, the flats in Handforth are not yet full after three years.
Simon Worthington
Thursday 2nd April 2015 at 4:30 pm
The shifty types who operate these places act like our favorite local builder with his offices. Planning officers insist on parking spaces but they are not allocated to the apartments and are offered for rent.
Rehana Hindle
Friday 3rd April 2015 at 12:06 am
Very good point Simon.
Visited the display at British Legion today, shock horror!!! It's the sales team promoting sale of 35 flats to locals and pushing these.
People were asking about buy to let's, ground rent charges etc
No display model of the building or of the proposed site, nor the colour of display of materials, looks like a block of offices in a straight line with windows.
Trees will be removed , and much more - watch this space
David Jefferay
Friday 3rd April 2015 at 8:24 am
I too visited the exhibition and generally I was satisfied with what I saw. I quite like the look of the building and its position and I think they could have tried to squeeze a lot more in resulting in over-development of the site.

On the parking issue, they are providing 1 space per flat which should be more than enough.

I realise it was a 'get the locals on side' exercise with only outline information so whether the detail will be different when it comes to the actual planning application, we'll have to see.

However, this kind of pre-application consultation should be welcomed and I did come away with a warm feeling that they are keen to work with the locals to get something we want (and obviously something they can sell).

Rehana, I wouldn't worry too much about buy to let investors... even if they were for sale to investors, the sort of money they are going to be asking would make them an awful investment!